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Meet the woman who’s dating her way into meals at top Toronto restaurants

(Image: Erin Wotherspoon/Facebook)

(Image: Erin Wotherspoon/Facebook)

Plenty of people go on blind dates. But it takes a unique personality to go on blind dates just to gorge on restaurant food. Meet Erin, a 24-year-old struggling actress in Toronto with a 48-restaurant-long hit list, a meagre bank account and a mission to use and abuse Toronto dudes. On her blog, A Penniless Girl, Bad Dates and Plenty of Oysters, she chronicles her not-so-secret life as a food-obsessed serial dater. And there isn’t too much she won’t do for a free gourmet meal. Masquerade as a practicing Jew in order to date guys on J-Date? Sure. (“I’d say my Hebrew is on the rougher side”). Target recent immigrants to avoid risking detection? Absolutely. Serial dating, of course, comes with its downsides, like struggling to keep track of all her squires (or, as she puts it, “Trying to figure out who the fuck is who”) and being outed on Reddit, where two different threads have already netted 650 comments, ranging from the mildly interested (“Meh. I’d spend $20 on her”) to the extremely angry (“I started reading her blog and wanted to punch her through my screen”). Her response to the backlash? “Haters gon’ hate.”

  • Jeremy Poteck

    what a betch

  • http://debtblag.com/ Debt BLAG

    And yet, even knowing this reality, I’m sure there are no shortage of men reading this who would love to take her on a date. It’s a sad world we live in sometimes.

  • doggiepearl

    Way to set women back a million years.

    Toronto Life, why even publish this story?

  • Bryanna

    How does this set half of the world’s population back a million years? Her actions, her consequences. I kinda like her more now that everyone is hating on her.

  • http://sasetbelle.tumblr.com/ dalia

    TL is full of stories written by women who celebrate being vapid, whiny, unappreciative, self-absorbed, spoiled brats. I used to love this magazine for the quality of its editorial. Lately, it’s just full of tripe. When did it turn into the Daily Mail UK?

  • http://www.myspace.com/krantzstone Krantzstone

    I don’t hate her, but I don’t think she should be deceitful to her dates about her goals: if she wants to eat a free meal at a fancy restaurant, why not just say so? I was going to say that she could just pay for it herself, but in this economy, I suppose that’s not exactly in the cards for everyone. But you know, she could do what I do when I want to purchase something that I can’t easily afford: save up, or at least buy it on credit and pay it off as soon as possible. ;P

  • barloot

    Wow this hateful foul cunt should die. In the worst way possible she’s messing with people for no reason other than free food? The amount of poison karma coming her way will kill her, like stomach cancer or something. Each one of those meals was with a person, a human looking for someone else in this world, wholly shit is she gonna wish she never ever thought of this evil scheme!

  • Stephka Hughes

    Chill. They just reported it. Walk into most downtown restaurants and dont tell me most of the women there aren’t enjoying being taken out & the men aren’t staring at their legs/TnA. So she’s channelling it to a blog. Welcome to the 21st century. Leading the men on is wrong but whats one date going to do? Kill the guy? I think he’ll survive.

  • Robi

    “Pop! Pop! Fizz! Fizz! Ooh! What a relief it is!” I believe after this Village Bicycle visits all of those lovely restaurants on her list , she’s gonna need some help. Best of luck fellas!

  • Guest

    Don’t you guys get it? They are outing her for the public to see. Her name is Erin Wotherspoon and guys will now potentially be aware of who she is and what she is doing.

    I just can’t wait for a guy to take her to a super expensive resto and then dine and dash on her leaving her to pick up the bill which she can’t afford.

  • Rishi Sethi

    Oh please. Men have been duping women into dates just to get laid forever.

  • Elise

    People use others to fulfill their needs/desires all the time. Men will take women on dates just to have sex with them. She’s doing it for food. Much less harmless, don’t you think?

  • GreenManSteele

    “Masquerade as a practicing Jew in order to date guys on J-Date? Sure. (“I’d say my Hebrew is on the rougher side”).”

    A woman exploiting Jews. +1 Feminism.

  • Michelle

    This is FUNNY! I don’t think it sets women back in time, I think it projects them forward. Common people. Think modernity.

  • Michelle

    Your language is disgusting.

  • Nick

    She’s a struggling actress — She will be a druggy OR porn star by 25. No need to hate on this woman. Life will hate her soon enough.

  • Guest

    Rishi and Elise if women were unaware that a guy was after sex that would be one thing, but these guys are taking her out looking potentially for something more than just sex. If you read any of her blog she purposely goes out with guys she rates as 2 or 3 with no intention of getting to know them. She goes on dates under false pretenses like she’s thinking about converting to Judaism. She’s a bold face liar. She’s a food hooker.

  • Guest

    This is why you probably sleep around thinking it progresses women in society instead of getting an education and making men look stupid with your intelligence. You and this girl should become friends.

  • Guest

    Elise if women were unaware that a guy was only after sex that would be one thing, but these guys are taking her out probably looking for something more than just sex. If you read any of her blog she purposely goes out with guys she rates as 2 or 3 with no intention of getting to know them. She goes on dates under false pretenses like ‘she’s thinking about converting to Judaism’. She preys on internet dating sites and guys who are looking for dates. She’s a bold face liar. She’s nothing more than a food hooker.

  • Steven

    A) Consesual sex is harmless and mutally benefial. When one party lies about future plans, then the other party feels burned and used. We can, and often do empathize with those used in such a way.

    B) She’s leading these men on and blatantly bald faced lying to them, manipulating them, in order to fulfil some entitled narcissistic want of hers.

    Neither is good – it’s not harmless.

  • theotherwhitemeat

    i stopped reading her post after i read “i’ve got a pretty face.” i already know it’s full of lies after seeing some of her fb pics.

  • Dania

    Maybe she could focus her efforts on getting a well paying job and pay for dinners herself.

  • Joe

    And yet, she still have the image up that has geolocation attached to it. Dumbass.

  • Joe

    and they are assholes too.

    -man

  • Steven

    I’ve seen her type, and (sigh) unfortunately, most men are oblivious to conniving types. I’ve been there – thinking with the naive part of their brain, and the little head and not the big one.

    On a bright note : in 10 years, due to no one calling her on her BS she’ll be emotionally stunted, intellectually retarded (in comparison to her peers), and delusionally bitter.

    The flower of youth comes to all of us – what we do with it is up to us. She’s no different than some guy who uses it to get his wick wet and never learns how to have a relationship.

    In 10 years whens she’s no longer the fresh young face and her, ahem, assets have dropped a few inches or grown a few inches, she’ll be bitter and not understand why men are not catering to her.

    And the really SAD part is that most people like this can’t reason out why. They have angry bitter stories of “being used” and “can’t find a good man” – but the reality is she’s used to being catered to, and it’s no longer happening and she’s very very angry.

  • shelby5287

    do you know how many more men go out/buy drink for women they feel is a ’2 or 3′ just to sleep with them? lol I think more women should participate. the playing field is finally being evened.

  • Reality

    If I’m not mistaken, for every 1 male who graduates with a bachelors’ 2 females graduate. So it appears women -are- getting an education, they’re just also having sex however and whenever they want, too. It’s not 1950 anymore.

  • Brett Main-man Warner

    like the former said those men are known as assholes so what is your point?

  • Brett Main-man Warner

    pretty sure the rates are the opposite, at least since the 1950′s more women have graduated college then men. So no, you are mistaken

  • barloot

    I can’t imagine what you mean? I hope it’s not so bad that it’s off-putting and my point is lost behind it. I mean I don’t wish to be offensive it’s just that I couldn’t find a thing to describe this women better than cunt, it’s too small a word as compared to what she actually is, I mean is double cunt a thing? Pus filled cunt? Again a socio-path who manipulates other members of the human race and mocks them for their earnestness all for a dinner out, has got to be called something more descriptive than a cunt I just couldn’t think of it before my morning coffee.

  • Jamie

    I’m soo outraged! This is terrible!

    But look at that pretty, pretty face..

    Sign me up! I’ll bet I can change her!

  • Michelle

    Are you kidding? It’s actually funny how wrong you are–I am informed of these opinions because I AM educated. I attend one of the top universities in Canada and I study History and Political Science with an emphasis on gender, I will have you know. The reason I hold this belief is because women are DOMINANT and in CONTROL are new concepts, SIR. She is autonomous–be it by sex, money, whatever means available to her. Now usually I do not like to flaunt that I am educated but because you implied I hold this view because I am uneducated is actually entirely wrong. Women can be autonomous, too. And the girl just wants to EAT. She is not pretending she will marry these men, she is a struggling actress, a role that is HARD for women to succeed in (or anyone, especially in Canada). So, GOD FORBID she have some fun with a little social experiment with men who I will assume are very wealthy in the first place to bring a complete stranger out to dinner and pay. Thanks for your time.

  • Steven

    Don’t be an idiot – getting “revenge” on people who are not the ones who wronged you is twisted.
    Most women who have breathed know guys want sex – and go on dates trying to figure IF they want to sleep with the guy, and if so when.
    In the same way if a guy went to a MARRIAGE type site, and lied that he was Jewish (as this woman did) or had [this job] to showcase how he was a good catch, and led these women on and bang the hell out of them, knowing the women thought they were headed for nuptuals I highly doubt you’d say:

    “well, gee, of course, guys want sex – you’re an idiot. And besides women lie to guys all the time too – so it evens the field.”
    You’re being gender biased. Stop it.

  • disqus_Msela9e7py

    brilliant.

  • BOJIGGITY

    Growl. A bunch of nagging ‘girls’ huddle around their tv to watch The Bachelor every week. How is this any different? Girl wants something. Girl finds guy who will provide it. The only difference is the guy doesn’t dump her in the end for someone else, she dumps him. WHO CARES.

  • Robi

    You could try “You rampallian! You fustilarian!” With apologies to Falstaff

  • Elise

    In reply to Steven and “Guest”:
    The thing is not all women are aware that their evening’s date plans to build them up with false interest and hope just to have sex with them.
    Have you heard of the phenomenon “go ugly early”? It’s a much cruder version of what this woman is doing. Her behaviour is definitely not harmless, but she not a “betch”, she’s just called that by men who fear this may have happened to them.

  • morris

    Imagine the response if this was a guy who was taking advantage of women to get free stuff. SO MUCH MORE HATE. I demand equal rights, get on her feminists!!

  • Dave

    Michelle, I congratulate you for having pursued higher education. However, I would like to offer you some pro bono, albeit unsolicited, advice; in addition to studying history and political science, perhaps you should also take a class or two in psychology and criminology in which case you would see that this woman is a predator in her own right. Furthermore, I would suggest that you verify the meaning of the term “autonomous” in the dictionary. You refer to this miscreant as “autonomous” whereas in reality she is anything but. By her own admission, she relies on going on dates with these poor saps in order to eat. By definition, therefore, she is not “autonomous” because she is unable to provide for herself. I cannot speak to this woman’s character in a general sense because I don’t know her personally (for which I am eternally grateful). Her intentions are malicious and, what’s more, her actions are tantamount to criminal deceit insofar as she goes on dates with unassuming individuals under false pretenses and, moreover, she indirectly defrauds them out of money (for the dinners). She is perhaps one or two steps above a wanton, street-walking whore (and I mean ‘whore’ literally). Actually, on second thought I would suggest that she is worse than a common prostitute because the latter will state her price up front. One can only hope that she will meet her match on one of these deceitful dates and that justice will somehow be served.

    Shame on you, Michelle, for defending this utterly distasteful and unbecoming behaviour. Coming from an educated man who considers himself a gentleman and who always treats ladies with the utmost respect, I can say that Ms. Wotherspoon may very well be a woman but she definitely is not a lady.

  • moeimoei

    Lol, this is hilarious :D
    I have nothing against what she is doing but she needs to get a well-paying job herself so that this thing she’s doing is just a hobby not a need….LMAO….

  • Margarita Law

    she only started her blog in August, no biggie

  • Eric Marsh

    Because of course no woman desires to get laid, ever.

  • Eric Marsh

    Why are they assholes too?

  • Eric Marsh

    No, it isn’t much less harmless. Try again.

  • Eric Marsh

    er… and do you know how many women AGREE to go out with men just to sleep with them? You seem to be living in some sort of cloud cuckoo land where only men desire sex.

  • Raoul Niboj

    Welcome to Toronto.

  • fitnessgurl

    She should be sued and banished from all internet dating sites.

  • Ron Thibodeau

    First date. Culinary oasis. What’s the problem? Lighten up people!

  • Corey Pierce

    her comment on a Jewish date:

    “Sue me but I just can’t do the whole hook nose hunch back
    thing…something about the combination of the two. Hook nose? Okay okay
    maybe this could work. Hunch back? A little harder but I’m thinking I
    could maybe eventually get past it. Hook nose hunch back combo? I’m
    sorry you lost me”

    Racist haters gonna hate racists

  • Corey Pierce

    Michelle, what part of autonomous feminism includes pretending to be jewish and then blogging “Sue me but I just can’t do the whole hook nose hunch back
    thing”

  • Tanvir Ofwgkta

    her number: 416-671-4773

  • WeHeartKatamari

    You’re agreeing with him, and then calling him mistaken?
    He said: 2 women graduate per every1 man…it’s not the 1950s anymore
    You said: Since the 1950s, 2 women graduate per every 1 man

  • Reality

    You read the rates wrong. For every 1 male who graduates, 2 females graduate. So for every 3 graduates, 2 are female and 1 is a male.

    You agree with me.

  • Reality

    Well, she probably would have been arrested and jailed had she done this and been found out 40 or 50 years ago. i.e., she wouldn’t have even had the option, and now she does. Autonomous feminism.

  • shelby5287

    re: eric and steven, go sell your BS elsewhere. not all men/women are vindictive but there will always be those special few. However, MANY men feel entitled to play games and get what they want if they are good at it. Don’t speak on subjects you would have no idea about. A REAL woman has no interest in a one night stand/fling. A real woman desires sex in a trusting and stable relationship. Unfortunately, there are lots of young women (who are naive and often taken advantage of) or women who have real issues (whom men take even more advantage of) who become labelled as ‘sluts’ because they are promiscuous — please tell me what is the label a women should use for a man with has no standards and sleeps with anything with a pulse? Here it is: Men are useless whining bastards — and Eric very few of you are adequately skilled in the bedroom. Watch some porn directed by a women and you might learn something about female desire.

  • shelby5287

    lol i feel sorry for you that you are so clueless as to what so many members of YOUR gender are doing everyday. being manipulative game playing bastards. your quite bitter which means you have mommy issues. don’t project that onto women you meet or else you will never be happy.

  • Jordan Ellis

    It was actually a pretty good story reflecting the hypocrisy of entitled women and feminism.

  • Jess

    http://mattforney.com

    I’ve found her one true love.

  • barloot

    I’d let this slide normally but you brought my mom’s into it. I can’t defend every strawman trope you believe exists, therefore justifying your issues, but don’t get it twisted. This … woman?? Is actively playing with the hearts and minds of other humans for a meal. Understand this, do you think she would hesitate for a second using this ploy on a lesbian who wanted to find a partner in the world? You’re GD right she wouldn’t. This woman is on willful purpose adding to the ugly, the poisonings that spoil the world around us. All for a few carbs and proteins. Make no mistake side with her and you line up with the dark.

  • shelby5287

    she did mention in her blog she would do it to a women and once AGAIN men do this to women every day! women are the good in this world. its men that make this world dark. start evolving and stop being using, cheating pigs and then you won’t see women like this in the media. women are reflections of men. not the other way around. the ugly that the world is is that we allow everyone to do as they wish without any moral code. when men stop acting like animals and act honorably towards women then you can talk until then take your anger issues elsewhere.

  • barloot

    I get it now. You’re the one with issues. Some womyns studies course has armed you with their party line, men bad womyn good. You see this cunt as a crusader. A righter-of-wrongs that men have wrought against your sisters in the struggle eternal. She’s none of that. She betrays you, She, and let’s be clear, is an evil little cur, spreading her avarices on the vox populi . Some woman she doesn’t know or care about is going to get a backhand in the face because of her. When that happens, I want that man dealt with immediately. I don’t side with that. And I never will. But I’ll see where the seed was planted. She did it. She planted that poison seed, But that’s ok, right. Order the lobster, fuck this asshole for thinking he had a chance. Go on the week-end to Paris or New York with the fat guy with the good job, no harm done. Do all that and to hell with the shit you bring. Or??? Treat and entreat all you meet with how you wish to be treated, accept the risk of heartbreak and disappointment, but always be the grown-up in every situation. You said you feel sorry for me? I feel sorry for you, because to think this life is a game to be won. It’s not. It’s a struggle against those that would do you harm. They only way to lose is to play like them. Like her. Like I think you want too.

  • http://roymarvelous.com/ roy marvelous ϟ

    This is why you should never do dinner on the first date!

  • http://roymarvelous.com/ roy marvelous ϟ

    If she’s putting out for food, then yes, it’s harmless.

  • Kayleigh

    This kind of attention is probably exactly what she wants. Struggling actress? Willing to bet anything that she’s hoping this will go viral and she’ll end up with either a book deal or movie deal. Let’s not give her that satisfaction.

  • JDHalperin

    Desperate craving to eat at every TO restaurant…sounds like TO Life writing about the monster THEY CREATED.

  • RElgin

    Sharing time over a meal is not too bad an ordeal, unless she is a bore.

  • anonymou6
  • keisha brown

    exactly.
    and how is it different from men pretending x,y or z in order to get the goods?

  • keisha brown

    ALL. OF. THIS.

  • Michael

    What a narcissistic asshole. I don’t really subscribe to the notion that there is someone/something out there pulling the levers but in this case I do hope there is karma.

  • http://debtblag.com/ Debt BLAG

    I think it’s a bit different. The “goods,” after all, are something that men and women share with each other, not something that just flows in one direction.

  • http://debtblag.com/ Debt BLAG

    That seemed extreme and unnecessary. Why would she take this extra step?

  • http://debtblag.com/ Debt BLAG

    I’m not a betting man, but I’m sure she’ll be going on more dates after this, not less. Maybe not more from J-date though ;)

  • 1Spinning1

    Funny, I read or noticed nothing about feminism in this article. Seems you got a hate on for feminists and now you’re seeing them where they just don’t exists.

    What you did get right, was the part about it being a good story about entitled women. As a feminist myself, I’m just as disgusted by this as you. This is not what we fight for, but alas, there’s idiots on both sides of the fence.

  • 1Spinning1

    Well said.

  • Jay

    I feel the need to put in my two cents.

    For those who are decrying the evils of feminism that have surely caused this, you’re missing the point. News flash: manipulative people have existed long before the rise of feminism. People wanting women to have equal rights and equal pay to men has nothing to do with the actions of this woman. What this woman is, in truth, is simply a manipulative, shallow, entitled person who doesn’t want to earn what she gets, and is willing to step on and exploit people for material gain.

    Don’t worry. She’ll get hers.

  • David

    When I posted this story on my wall, I was told that I only posted this because I wanted to undermine feminism and accuse all women of being money-grubbing whores, by a feminist no doubt. I’m glad that you recognize that there are entitled women who abuse their female privilege, however there are plenty of feminists who claim that female privilege doesn’t exist in a ‘patriarchal society’, and only male privilege exists.

    you won’t be seeing this story in Jezebel or XoJane, thats for sure. Because those publications are written for the majority of feminists, who refuse to believe that female privilege exists.

  • Tanner Watson

    she isn’t even that good looking. I would give her a solid 6.5 but that’s about it. I fully understand why she is looking to recent immigrants to reduce the risk of being caught. I would imagine she will get a lot more dates with this coming out to the public and she will get a bit of fame or notoriety for it, but she is going to have a large amount of people talking to her to fuck with her as well. which are the stories I really want to hear about this tramp when she gets ditched at the table of a fancy restaurant that she couldn’t possibly afford. and the guy sits back and laughs his fucking ass off. and to blog about it too. its as if she is hoping for a train wreck. you would think she would be a little more private about being a food prostitute.

  • Tanner Watson

    lol im guessing there will be a sharp increase of people finding her and taking her on “dates” to screw with her as well. things like this don’t go unpunished. and I wont be surprised in the least if she is left at a table with food still on her face as the dude walks out and leaves her with a bill she couldn’t afford in two lifetimes. its going to be hilarious!

  • Rob Ford

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    Oddseoul – worst korean food ever. American flag decor gotta go.
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    Burger Priest – pricey McDonalds.
    la Societe – douche
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    Banh mi boys – good effort
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    Woodlot – amazing
    Kinton Ramen – santouka is better. Ryus is better.
    Barchef – douche but interesting drinks.
    Electric Mud BBQ – pricey and not tastey.
    Chantecler – amazing
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    Farmhouse Tavern – amazing.
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    La Carnita – awesome.
    The Guild – amazeballs.
    The Black Hoof – amazeballs.
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    Bar Volo – great.
    Turf Lounge – super uber douche
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    Hawthorne Food & Drink
    TOCA Restaurant
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    Stockyards – amazing
    The Drake – people eat here?
    Rock Lobster – not bad.

  • Jason

    I already made her pay the bill. I was date 3

  • Guest

    My name is Jason and I was originally victim 3, but I found what she was doing on Facebook and my original plan was dine and dash but instead making her pay for the meal was much more delightful rewarding.

  • Jason

    My Name is Jason Goodis and I was victim 3 until I found out what she was doing 1 hour before the date happened. My original plan was to dine and dash (yes I worked out an exit plan got there early and tipped the server just in case Erin was a bad tipper) instead I enjoyed my whole mean and stuck her with the bill. The night was amazing and a great story to tell.

  • Jason

    My Name is Jason Goodis and I was victim 3 until I found out what she
    was doing 1 hour before the date happened. My original plan was to dine
    and dash (yes I worked out an exit plan got there early and tipped the
    server just in case Erin was a bad tipper) instead I enjoyed my whole
    mean and stuck her with the bill. The night was amazing and a great
    story to tell.

  • Jason

    My Name is Jason Goodis and I was victim 3 until I found out what she
    was doing 1 hour before the date happened. My original plan was to dine
    and dash (yes I worked out an exit plan got there early and tipped the
    server just in case Erin was a bad tipper) instead I enjoyed my whole
    mean and stuck her with the bill. The night was amazing and a great
    story to tell.

  • 1Spinning1

    I’m sorry that your interactions with self proclaimed feminists have been so frustrating. Like I said in my earlier post, there are idiots on both sides.

    If you wish to continue to think that most feminists are entitled, privileged and chronic liars, that’s your prerogative. I just think it makes you look kind of stupid to oversimplify like you’ve done based on one woman’s comment on your post and a celebrity gossip site that’s meant to be outrageous. But what do I know, I’m just a stupid feminist.

    To each their own I guess.

  • David

    I say again.. I’m glad that you’re obviously interested in equalitiy and calling out abusive behaviour where you see it. The key feminist publications that I know about, Jezebel and xoJane, will not be publishing this story.

    I do indeed wish that they were more like you though.

  • Francisco

    Good for her! I fully support her. Only weak beta males will spend money on hot women, they deserve what they get. Real men don’t spend money on a girl until after breakfast the next day.

  • Robi

    Why in Hells name did you delete your comments. Your point of view is what matters here. Not! These people who cannot handle the choice of language you use. They only wish they had the courage say it first (at the very least they thought it)! Be true to yourself and DONOT bow to Bullies!

  • Jennifer Lorraine Smith

    this girl is a genius. if she’s good at what she’s doing now, she should take it up a notch and hit up the strip club. she’d make an excellent hustler and make a ton of cash. i say more power to her!!

  • Ya

    Don’t get me wrong … there’s nothing more sad then the selfish bitch this article is about … but the men who took her out are a bit sad too … I mean, this bitch but ugly … I wouldn’t even give her a second look let alone a first date.

  • barloot

    I didn’t delete them, :I guess the site did.

  • Robi

    That’s outrageous! I HATE censorship. Boo! To Toronto Life.

  • Kevin Getz

    this chick is not even all that pretty, what’s the deal? so many desperate men? :( sad.

  • Kevin Getz

    also she is not all that literate..”what am I too do?”, creditability? why am I not surprised?

  • CMHCW

    Her blog is hilarious! Let the girl have some fun and get some good meals along the way! Who are you to judge?

  • Starfish416

    Many women go out with men in a similar fashion, without blogging about it. I’m all for taking out an intriguing and/or beautiful woman for a nice evening at a fine restaurant without “getting anything” else out of it other than a good meal with a charming companion. The difference here is that Erin seems a bit dull, and physically, I would say moderately attractive at best.

  • David

    because they lie to people to exploit them

  • The OGS

    She looks pretty fine.
    I would feed her… or (even better) make her wealthy.
    Miss Erin would then be satisfied for ever… and yes well fed too.
    She is thinking too small; too short-term – but not unusual for the very young!

  • Kevin Getz

    haha as typical the maximum low-cut top in her pics, to display her nearly non-existent jugs

    well no doubt some sugar-daddy type will finance some plastic surgery for jug-enhancement, then maybe she can get work as an ‘actress’ in 3rd-rate porn

  • The OGS

    Jug-obsessed, Getz?

  • David

    1) This woman is only unique because she is publicly announcing her conquests
    2) other women just have other things they exploit men for other than food
    3) every time a man feels used and exploited by a woman, he turns into a guy who doesn’t have any qualms about using and exploiting women for his own gain.
    4) see 3) and reverse the sexes, and we have a cycle of self-fullfilling prophecies.

  • http://sasetbelle.tumblr.com/ dalia

    Says you. I thought otherwise.

  • Clay Rochemont

    Jason, you rock. Seriously.

  • Clay Rochemont

    Im kind of bummed that this article is out, the blog was pretty entertaining.

  • Michael Irvine

    Will cocktease for food.

  • Mike Post

    Being married I feel the need to impart some knowledge and write a dating book…sometime before I die.

    Inspired by the need to help anyone who keeps dating idiots like this. Guys (and girls) you’re better than this, learn to read the signs and avoid the trash.

  • Mike Post

    I don’t have to write that dating book anymore. This comment really, really, nails it.

  • Al Briggs

    I would have murdered her, and left her in the restaurant toilet. Too much?

  • Guest

    What kind of relationships with men have you been involved in for you to think this way about us, I have no idea……..Don’t reply to this comment, I don’t want to know.

  • JHo

    This is why the dating scene in Toronto is horrrrrible. Couples look like they got stuck together. People are oblivious of the importance of romance and love in Toronto. It is vital to the mental health of a city and children growing up. If they don’t see romance or displays of love, then they will believe it is not important or negative. What a horrible example to leave. The fact that Toronto women are not speaking out and supporting this is worse. Nobody in the world will EVER want to date a Toronto Woman, with a reputation of being a RESTO Digger…lol.

  • David Jervis

    pathetic girl

  • Jason

    Way too much. I do not necessarily support the emotional aspect of it. However I got to try a new restaurant, she was great company and its no different then guys who go for dinners or coffee with girls expecting to take them home. However If I did not know what she was doing I would of been upset.

  • Dusty MacKinnon

    That’s so awesome! good for her!

  • http://hypebeast.com/ Khartoumi (The Black Arab)

    Might that be because of federal affirmative action that makes it much easier for women to access higher education including a litany of bridging programs and financial grants that are exclusively for women?

    Nah, it must be because women are smarter than men, right?

    I bet it really bothers you that 99.9% of the wealth in this world is controlled by men and it always will be.

  • http://hypebeast.com/ Khartoumi (The Black Arab)

    ” study History and Political Science with an emphasis on gender”

    BUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  • http://hypebeast.com/ Khartoumi (The Black Arab)

    “women are the good in this world. its men that make this world dark.”

    You’re a mentally ill cunt.

  • Death To Money Whores

    If I buy her dinner do I get to date rape her too? I mean, she manipulates me to get what she wants, I should get to manipulate her to get what I want.

  • guest

    and you are a faggot bastard. have we succeded in name calling and acting like we are in grade 2 again??

  • http://hypebeast.com/ Khartoumi (The Black Arab)

    It’s not about name calling.

    That is an incredibly disgusting, ignorant statement to make.

    And me calling her a cunt or a bitch (highly appropriate) is not the equivalent of you calling me a faggot which is a homophobic slur.

  • guest

    ew you are such an ignorant bastard! fuck you for feeling entitled to use such horribly derogative offensive language to women. i really wish you nothing but a miserable and lonely existence.

  • guest

    you’re a tool.

  • Dee

    Agreed, gotta love karma…

  • Robi

    The only tool is the sycophant who supports censorship. You probably work in a cubical in the public sector! You lecherous treacherous microcosm of a moron. Thou sodden-witted lord! thou hast no more brain than I have in mine elbows.
    Troilus and Cressida (2.1.41)

  • qwerty_4321

    She’s just sleep with anyone in management to pay the bill.

  • Euclid Passion

    I think all the guys who got duped by this girl deserve it. I mean, lets accept this fact – there is a definite pecking order in our society and each person knows where he/she stands on the hotness scale. If you are a 5/10 and a 10/10 chick accepts going on a date with you, then you have really poor social IQ. I mean, I really have come across guys who are 5/10 but in their own mind they are 10/10. Someone needs to knock some sense into these guys. The same holds good for girls too btw. A sad sad story here….there was this girl in my univ I really liked. I would rate myself 7/10…and would say she is 7/10 too. But she was after this guy who was a 9/10 or a 10/10. She tried for a full four years, got humilated several times, but never got what she wanted. She married some pathetic loser after being heartbroken. If she had reciprocated to my overtures, I woujld have married her…but then she deserves what she got right.

  • james

    lets just hope your little ‘plan’ does not backfire in your face

  • james

    You hit the fucking nail on the head there buddy

  • Whiteknight

    I let guys eat me out for a food

  • james

    Women are women; there isnt a divide between women and REAL women. There are women who want casual sex; There are women who want relationships, There are women who want both at the same time. You don’t fucking know what YOU are talking about, and you don’t speak for all women.

    You give feminism a bad name. In fact, I’m almost positive you have no idea what feminism is about at all. From your own words, it seems like you want to continue playing in the current patriarchal systems: women are delicate little flowers, am I right?

    Women want sex as much as men do…its biology, not some patriarchal principle – like you would like to believe.

  • Whiteknight
  • Jerry Lewis

    Took a look at the blog – not even an attractive girl – maybe cute at best. Oh well.

  • Juniormistmaker

    But that would take work and ambition…

  • greygoose

    What a professional hose bagger she is.

  • Dania

    True. But surely all this arranging dates and deceiving people is a lot of work too!

  • guest

    hahahaha i have no idea what any of the above means but its so ridic. thanks for the laugh! : D

  • Bulder

    I have done it when I was young !! She pissed me off and I left . Yes there are a lot of vicious women out there , a lot . Guys be very aware !!!! Stay a way from the big cities .

  • Bulder

    Because you guy are dating skanks ,that’s why . If you go to the bars that’s exactly what you are going to get . Mostly sluts and Gold diggers . I told you stay a way from bars . Go have a good time but don’t hit on them . Don’t date them . Be smart . I met my wife at work . She hates Bars and clubs and she cocks I married her for that !!!

  • guest

    really? what exactly makes you such an expert on what women want? or feminism. and you’re just another guy who thinks everything is equal in life and wants women to ‘stop being delicate flowers’ or ‘princesses’ yet if you actually met a women like that in real life you would not want to be with her – you would probably consider her a butch. stop being a pathetic male for soon women will realize how worthless men are bc all they do it complain about their roles in life and make themselves completely useless to women (in all areas of life!) I don’t live in a patriarchal mindset I just believe women are undervalued for what they do in life – always have been and I think its about time males know what its like to feel like a 2nd class citizen. As if it is a greater role to be a provider than it is to be a fulltime parent/homemaker.

  • Euclid Passion

    Soon there will be a male version of Carrie

  • Bulder

    I hear you brother but can I tell you something from older guy prospective ….I know her type …They sick vicious men haters . A lot of those women make false Rape accusations and put innocent men in jail . We all know that . See what happened to Brian Banks the black kid from US ,the football player . Spent 5 years for Rape he did not commit . Its a travesty really !! The sad part buddy is that they know that there is always an desperate brain washed White Knight idiot who will defend them or marie them waiting around the corner !! Always ,because she is attractive ,that’s why . Just look at Karla Homolkas life ….she is out of jail and married with kids ,right now . Men need to change , men need to smarten up . Start supporting each other and stop been so desperate !!!!!!!! The latest study from Harvard shows that women and need sex more then men do . Multiple Orgasm’s ,right ,make sense . So ,don’t act desperate .

  • Euclid Passion

    Exactly! A guy should look at himself in the mirror (and wallet) and find his “level”…and date girls of the same level. Otherwise the guy is shooting too high.

  • Kaylee Murray

    Not that I think what she’s doing is acceptable, but how is this different from guys going on dates hoping just to get lucky?

  • Eileen Diaz

    thats just sad and completly rude at the same time. Maybe she should find hereself a job and pay for her own meals? perhaps that would be a good place to start. Definitley not miss independant haha

  • Sean Cowan

    What a dirty skank

  • http://sasetbelle.tumblr.com/ dalia

    Right. Says you.

  • zipzag

    What happens when a “date” gets wise, then mad??? I’ll bet she gets a great lawyer to help her sue!

  • heywhatsthatguydoing

    This is really more of a generational/culture issue rather than a
    gendered one. This is just typical behaviour from an entitled millennial
    metropolitan, and the people applauding her are of that same mentality.
    “Whatever! I do what I want!”

    Ugh, the world is doomed.

  • David

    It’s fairly conclusive at this point that women like sex as much as men, and that many of them fantasize about one night stands, and much more, but societal pressures prevent them from enjoying their fantasies.

    Regardless, since you’ve outed yourself as a militant and bigoted feminist, I’ll step away since you mostly seem interested in preserving the idea that women are innocents in a world of evil men.

  • Aziz Abdo

    I’m a guy. I liked her blog, aside from talking about the food, which was annoying and boring, there were some pretty funny stories. Sent her a message telling her to focus more on the conversations/experience and less about the food. So many crybabies, so many worse things going on this world. Tuckermax has done a million times worse and people applaud him and he has published books. Stop with the butthurt.

  • Michael Bradley

    She is what as known as a gold digger. Kick her to the curb. She is not worth the time or the effort.

  • yessi

    OYSTERS!
    Oh my god, what I wouldn’t do for oysters.

    I joke, of course. I’ll buy my own G.D. oysters. I just won’t have kids so’s I can afford them.

  • David

    I’ve been with my fiance for 7 yrs, and I met her in a club. She never expected me to buy her a drink or clothing, and I treat her like a queen. I know what you’re saying though, there’s a lot of women out there that treat men like walking bank machines.

  • schlabotnik

    That would be ‘bald faced liar’……

  • Annoyed Citizen

    That’s the problem with this day and age… I’ve experienced both the online dating and meeting in person aspects. The problem is there is too many girls like this. It almost seems like the tables have turned rather than the males always being an ass in a relationship or general date. So many girls now are materialistic and judgmental! The famous saying, “girls mature quicker than guys” is a complete joke. Girls now need a good kick in the ass so they can actually appreciate what matters in life. They don’t like to be treated like an object, well don’t act like one.

  • Indifferent_D
  • Brian

    Who does dinner on the first day? Toronto is so old school.

    Save dinner for date 2 or 3… or until you know she’s not crazy or looking for a free meal.

  • Alex

    I would much rather have a free dinner and get laid (a guy’s fantasy) than pay for a dinner and get snubbed. Girls saying this is the same thing are delusional. Luckily girls like Wotherspoon are only 1% of the population.. No need to draw conclusions on all women from her.

  • Brad

    Hahahaha Jason, you were an awesome dude back in Guelph, and it seems you have become even more of a dude. Bravo man

  • http://www.you-read-it-here-first.com/ John Bailo

    On the one hand, she got a free meal, on the other hand, these cheapskates were expecting first date sex for the price of a grilled panini. Who’s ripping off whom?

  • Guest

    Based on Jason’s two responses I’m inclined to think that he didn’t actually go on a date with this girl….but it is actually this Erin girl trying to make her sound like she’s a fun date and enjoyable to be around. If you were supposed to be ‘victim 3′ as you put it how would you have found out about it?

  • erly

    Not all girls :) I hate people like this. I also hate people that blame an ENTIRE GENDER for the behavior of a despicable few.

    It’s just the female equivalent of the typical male douchebag. They flourish these days.

  • Annoyed Citizen

    I’m not saying ALL girls are like this, but a majority of them are. I’ve associated with a large group of girls, not just into one specific style either. I wouldn’t be expressing my harsh opinion if I didn’t live through my own experiences. And this seems to have happened within the last couple years. Girls used to be so easy to talk to, not anymore though. I’m a week short of 25 years old and I’m already sick on this nonsense! I’ve noticed some girls tend to drop this personality trait as they get to their late 20s, but does it take them 10 years of dating to smarten up.

    Yes I know this does exist in males as well and I don’t support this type of behavior regardless of who it is. But this tends to be more prominent in the female gender now.

  • barloot

    That’s it simp. Men expect sex on the first date. Even if that were true, unless she gave them sex on the first date then she’s ripping them off. And this totally ignores what a date is in the first place, breaking bread and getting to know another person. For every guy you think ‘wanted sex’ there were ten others that wanted to get to know this woman, and see where that goes. But you and all the all feminists and their simps think, ah fuck’em. You keep working that hustle though, women NEVER get wise to a guy trying to ‘Niceguy/Down with the cause’ himself into pussy.

  • barloot

    When and when? And what kinda food? Make it a dessert, I like my dinner sweet.

  • sup

    Soon she will be Fat and Ugly. What goes around comes around

  • dontbemalaka

    I had the pleasure of going out on a date with one of these losers. I became aware of her intentions during dinner at a fine establishment. She kept ordering the most expensive items on the menu. She wanted an expensive wine to drink after a few martinis. We were not clicking conversation wise and all I heard was ego. So plan B ticked into my head. We just ordered dessert and cognacs when I excused myself to go to the washroom. I had noticed earlier that there was an exit door besides the men’s room and being a hot summer’s night, the door was open. Out I went and I did not even care. I left her with bill. Back then, I only had a pager and that was the only number she had. Boy did I get some real nasty pages. I found out later she did the same to other guys, so this girl in the article is not the first.

  • http://www.myspace.com/krantzstone Krantzstone

    Heh, I was just about to post this exact point: men are constantly lying and scheming to get women to have sex with them, and I don’t see a constant stream of disgusting and offensive misandry about those people, because it’s accepted as ‘boys being boys’ or some bullshit, but the second a woman dares to use a man for dinner, all manner of sexism and blatant misogyny rears its ugly head on the internet.

    I totally do not condone what this woman is doing, because I think lying to people and using them makes people cynical, and it does make insecure men even more misogynistic than they already are, but I find a lot of the comments on this article far more disturbing than what this woman has done. These guys are trying to get into her pants, and she’s using that against them in order to get dinner at a nice restaurant, so who exactly is being used here? If you’re a nice guy who genuinely enjoys a woman’s company, even if it leads nowhere, no harm no foul: he got a nice night out with an attractive woman and ate a fancy restaurant. If you’re a “Nice Guy(tm)” who pretends to act nice to women just to scheme to get into her pants and think you can bribe her into it with dinner, then you’re just going to be sorely disappointed you spent several hundred dollars for nothing but a nice night out at a fancy restaurant with an attractive date.

    As a cis-male heterosexual, I get that us guys want to get laid. Maybe the more romantic ones think it’s leading to love, but regardless it’s bio-evolutionary. But buying someone dinner is not entitlement to sex, and if you can’t be satisfied with having a nice night out at a fancy restaurant with an attractive date and a delicious dinner, then you clearly have male privilege issues you need to sort out, because dinner, no matter how expensive, doesn’t entitle you to getting laid. Nothing does, because you’re not supposed to be buying sex: if you want that, go to a professional sex worker who I’m sure would be willing to work out some mutually beneficial arrangement. :P

    Personally, I’d rather eat alone at a fancy restaurant than be with someone who didn’t genuinely want to be with me of their own accord without any ulterior motives, and yes, being lied to about it would not be cool and would be hurtful. But if the worst that happens on that date is I feel like a fool for falling for it, it’s still better than what a lot of girls and women have experienced and continue to experience where they are date raped because some guy thinks he can take liberties because he paid for an expensive (or even not-so-expensive) meal for her. That’s male privilege.

  • http://www.myspace.com/krantzstone Krantzstone

    Perhaps a first date at a fancy restaurant is not the way to go: whatever happened to just going for coffee and talking? I don’t mind lavishing a woman with as much luxury as I can afford if I really like her, but I’m pretty sure I’m not going to know I like her that much on a first date when I don’t even know her from Eve. She might be really hot but she could be a really offensive character who makes racist, sexist, homophobic, trans*phobic, ableist, ageist, etc. comments, but I won’t know until I talk to her for a good long while, and if she’s not willing to spend a considerable amount of time getting to know me and letting me get to know her, I certainly don’t want to sleep with her. But maybe I’m just picky. ;P

  • http://www.myspace.com/krantzstone Krantzstone

    Or, you could just meet for coffee and split the bill for as many dates as it takes to get to know one another. But because you need to dip your wick, you’re trying to steamroll through that very process of “getting to know another person” and get straight to the sex. And she’s using that against you. If two people are willing to spend the time, energy and effort to get to know someone for a good long while before going to bed, this wouldn’t be an issue, because any person like this who is just trying to use someone to get something, doesn’t have the stamina or patience to go through the motions of pretending to get to know someone and to pretend to like them.

    If some woman can spend months on end just hanging out with me without needing to go to some fancy restaurant just to trick me into thinking she likes me for something other than my wallet, than kudos to her because that’s a true Method actor right there. But it seems doubtful anyone who actually is interested in using people would bother wasting their time like that… well, maybe if I was a multi-millionaire or something it would be worth that kind of time and effort invested.

    If you want instant sex for money, go to a professional sex worker, because I’m sure they’d be more than happy to work something out with you. But you know, even sex workers have standards and they may just think you’re a misogynistic tool who doesn’t deserve their services, and I wouldn’t say I blame them.

  • erly

    While I appreciate your anecdotal evidence, that’s all it is. While I feel empathy for your lack of non-douchebaggy girls, I could counter you and toss my own jaded view of men into the mix and say “most men are the ones with the problem because that is what I see;” and this is not a rational argument. Unless you also have dated an equal number of men to compare the women you have dated to, you can’t claim that men aren’t also frequently asshats.

    Being female, I get taunted by men simply walking down the street. When I avoid guys who are only nice because they want something (different from people being nice to be nice, it’s all in the way they look at/act towards you) they often feel it fitting to call me derogatory names simply because I opened the door myself, took care of my own coat, or didn’t take the seat and stood up on the bus. Then this special breed of dude loves to play the “nice guy card,” which in my mind is an attempt to guilt trip me for not being easy. Living in a large city, I experience this on a daily basis, multiple times a day, on my way to and from work. But negative experiences stand out, and I walk past plenty men minding their own business or have small talk that doesn’t phase me.

    I don’t know what it’s like to be a man, or understand what its like for women to treat me the way they would treat a man. I am missing the other half of the story, so I always give the benefit of the doubt.

    Also, it is not a pissing contest. Instead of whining about who suffers more, how about get up and do something about it? Call out crappy behavior when you see it? I certainly do.

  • Jason

    Hello Guest,

    I found out about through mutual friends. Go add me on facebook Jason Goodis and see all the proof there is. I made her pay the bill. We had fun!

    I will wait for you to add me as a friend!

  • Jason

    That is me! Jason Goodis look for me on facebook for proof that picture was taken at labour of love at Koolhause

  • HoneyTree EvilEye

    Think I saw your fb but no proof.

  • Bulder

    A, no kidding !

  • David

    Yeah, I learned from my mistake, and actually from other peoples’ a bit too. Don’t date materialistic girls who’ll drain you of your money. Don’t date feminist girls who’ll make everything your fault because Patriarchy. So few good girls out there these days.

  • Jason

    Add me and you will see proof

  • HoneyTree EvilEye
  • Jason

    Yes!

  • Nina Campitelli

    come on people, guys pull this kind of move all the time and use girls and everyone knows it. It was just dinner, not like she slept with the guys gave them the impression she was in love and then never called back, or slept with the guys best friend after…all of which guys do all the time. And she’s writing a blog, its in the public eye not deceiving at all. About time a girl had the guts to do it back..its jokes!

  • PlantinMoretus

    What? You are taunted multiple times per day, every day, just going back and forth to work? I’ve lived in Toronto for 20 years and know many women, and not ONE has ever mentioned being hassled by random men as much as that.

  • james

    I actually took women studies courses in university…but hell, since I’m not a woman, what the hell would I know, am I right?

    It’s actually quite simple: I ask what women want from the opposite sex. My female friends are not all alike: some want relationships, and some want sex with no strings attached. I was arguing against Hazel about the patriarchally-defined dichotomy between these groups of women – which is absolute rubbish.

    Patriarchy is negative for everyone – it creates problems for men too. I’m not going to get into the argument of who it is worse for; its not worth elaborating on at this time. Women can be undervalued in our society. But what this young woman has tried to do is abuse the patriarchal ideals of chivalry for her personal benefit.

    If you truly believe in advancing the rights of women and an equal portrayal in society, we have to stop making gender-based exceptions. Condemn this woman’s actions as if the actions were done by a man, and then we have real equality – not some skewed gender-based morality.

  • erly

    The western US is not Toronto… Been out here 30 years.

  • Winner15

    Birds like this end up no where in their life especially after publicizing what she does? She can’t be to smart if she wants to keep that type of lifestyle going. I had this happen to me a few times but got smart and hyped up many dates to some girls and drove to Niagara Falls or more than a hour drive away then simply let them eat and enjoy and slip out the back restaurant door as I was saying, “Have fun paying for that cab ride or bus ride home”!..

  • PlantinMoretus

    OK but this is TORONTO Life.

  • erly

    OK but you said MOST women; not most TORONTO women.

    Didn’t realize I wasn’t allowed to comment on things linked via my local weekly. Yeesh.

  • PlantinMoretus

    But context is important. From your original post, it’s not at all clear that you are NOT referring to Toronto, yet this is a Toronto-focused site, an article about a Toronto woman, eating at Toronto restaurants. What else were people supposed to think?

  • guest

    Unfortunately James for every one female that acts the way this woman has there are thousands of men who are much more deceitful, and as we all know much more violent. Maybe our generation will be different but I really don’t even want to imagine what has gone on behind closed doors between most men and women and how many men have abused their physical power to oppress women. Before you start thinking this is totally off topic please keep reading.

    Your response to this matter doesn’t even come close to identifying so much heinousness that goes on in the world. There is a much bigger picture here that I hope you and any male reading this understands with what I write here today. You want to make a difference in the world? Be a man that respects women – not sit on a blog condemning one silly girl. One bad egg. What have you done with your courses on womens studies? How about become a politician? Be someone who shapes society into one where there is equality. Change the way our society views women and demeans them. Millions of women are trafficked, raped and brutalized every day in this world and ALL you can think about is crucifying this one petty girl and her stupid blog. YOU are what is wrong with this world. Your response. Your mindset. And every man like you. You don’t like what you see in this blog? Be the change you wish to see in this world. Do something bigger! I’d love nothing more to see more men standing up for women and not hating on their inevitable backlash after being oppressed for centuries!

    Some food for thought. What can men really do to change what they don’t like? … Be better men.

  • guest

    irrelevant useless comment. she is stating her experience. no need to be so judgemental.

  • guest

    preach!

  • guest

    you are a great man. thank you for being a strong male voice for other men to adhere to.

  • http://twitter.com/NadineLumley Nadine Lumley Real

    My doppelganger…

    She has my blessings, only one thing to add:

    Time Tested Rules

    http://www.therulesbook.com/topten.html

    -00-

  • PlantinMoretus

    I was stating *my* experience. No need to be so hypocritical.

  • erly

    … that using anecdotal evidence to support the idea that “most women” are a certain way, more so than men, without considering how men react to women in a potentially intimate relationship, is overzealous. At best.

  • Bulder

    Vicious women .She has issues . Sounds like she is Feminist – Men Hater . Men stop acting so desperate ,stop it !

  • PlantinMoretus

    So you rebutted with your own anecdotal evidence?

  • erly

    If you comprehended what I wrote;

    ” I could counter you and toss my own jaded view of men into the mix and say “most men are the ones with the problem because that is what I see;” and this is not a rational argument.”

    “But negative experiences stand out, and I walk past plenty men minding their own business or have small talk that doesn’t phase me.

    I don’t know what it’s like to be a man, or understand what its like for women to treat me the way they would treat a man. I am missing the other half of the story, so I always give the benefit of the doubt.”

    You ignored the whole point of what I was saying.

  • PlantinMoretus

    I wasn’t interested in it, because the anecdotal evidence itself is irrelevant to the Toronto context. Men don’t behave like that here, not in general. Unfortunately, some Toronto women DO behave like the one in this article.

  • james

    Advice is given more easily than it is taken.

    If you want to keep bringing up the past, go ahead. Why do you keep attacking me, rather than my arguments? You know why I’m not a politician? Because I don’t like politics. Maybe if you know so much better than me you could follow your own advice and fight for women’s rights in a political arena.

    What you are doing is not advancing womens equality or the fight for feminism. What you are doing is justifying the actions of one woman based on a history of oppression.

    I’m done with this. Either you can try and move forward, or you can continue holding onto the past; a past that many of this generation of men do not have any responsibility for creating.

  • erly

    So you ignored the whole part about why anecdotal evidence is irrational because anything that doesn’t happen in Toronto is 100% irrelevant. What a gem you are.

    Did I ever say women don’t behave like that? Nope. Get your head on straight, sir.

  • http://www.myspace.com/krantzstone Krantzstone

    Heh, I can’t say I’m a great man by any stretch of the imagination, but I would prefer to think of it as a former Nice Guy(tm) who is trying to make up for his past hidden sexism and misogyny. I often say that I was perhaps the most sexist and misogynistic when I was taking part in Take Back The Night rallies and marching in pro-choice rallies, not because I secretly believed the opposite, but rather because I was so in denial of my own sexism and misogyny that it would inevitably crop up in my thoughts, words and deeds because I was so unaware of it.

    I think the important thing to remember is that while we’ve all internalized the sexism and misogyny inherent in our society (and how insidious it is!), what counts isn’t proclaiming publicly that one is not sexist, but rather to always be aware of how our very thoughts, not to mention words and deeds are being subtly influenced by the sexism we’ve internalized.

    I would like to think that I’ve come a long way from even half a year ago in terms of better understanding my own innate insecurities as a cis-male heterosexual and how those insecurities combined with internalized sexism and male privilege to see the world and women in particular with a hidden misogyny that is so at odds with my professed feminism, and that ultimately, fighting for feminism and fighting against sexism and misogyny starts with oneself.

  • http://makinthebacon.net/ MakintheBacon

    She’s definitely got some balls, (figuratively speaking of course). There would probably be even more backlash if it was a guy doing this.

  • King Of Bob

    Sued for what? She isn’t doing anything illegal.

  • King Of Bob

    Right… Because when you take her out for a meal you don’t eat. You only buy her dinner. /sarcasm

  • guest

    thank you for contributing to this conversation so intelligently and objectively. glad to hear you have found enlightenment. I can only hope your words are read by many others so they can find theirs too … and one day we might have true equality. peace & love

  • guest

    You have yet to reach enlightenment … and that is okay. What is not okay is this:

    Millions of women in TODAY’s world are being trafficked, raped, physically abused. Therefore this discussion is not solely based on the past. I speak of male attitudes where a man thinks that because of his physicality it is his right to dominate. And that attitude is the stem cell to so much hate in this world. When men in this world stop abusing their physical power and embrace the value a women has to offer there will be peace. Until then…

    one can not change the future for the better if they forget the mistakes of the past …

    This is not about you James however we have entered into this conversation together and so I write these words not really for you but in hopes that many others read this. We all pay the price of sin in our past. Whether in our lifetimes or in anothers long ago. It is every humans duty to leave this world a better place than how they entered it.

    Peace & Love

  • King Of Bob

    They’re not outing her. She has a blog that’s available for anyone to see.

  • guest

    sweetheart please read the numerous replies below. men do it all the time. it is called playing games with women’s emotions in order to get sex.

  • King Of Bob

    A) Where is it ever stated that she lead them to believe she had intentions regarding a future relationship? I’ve gone on many dates with no plans for a future relationship. I never felt the need to explain it beforehand.

    B) You use those words, but I do not think you know what they mean.

  • King Of Bob

    It doesn’t matter WHERE you meet a person. Anyone you meet anywhere could have negative intentions. Your argument is no different than the tired old “Don’t date women from the internet, they could turn out to be a man.” Anyone you meet, regardless of where is capable of lying.

  • King Of Bob

    What’s good for the goose and all that. Indeed.

  • King Of Bob

    You should really learn to read, Brett. Read it again:
    If I’m not mistaken, for every ONE MALE who graduates with a bachelors’ TWO FEMALES graduate. So it appears women -ARE- getting an education,
    they’re just also having sex however and whenever they want, too.

    I helped you and capitalized the words you seem to have missed.

  • King Of Bob

    More ignorant words have rarely been scrawled across my screen. And I spend time on IMDb, so that should tell you something.

  • King Of Bob

    Shame on you, equating using a man to get a meal with being a prostitute. They are by no means the same thing. Pretty sure the price is clear up front since the whole idea is they’re taking her to dinner. Which IS the price.

    You are quite clearly NOT a gentleman, as no gentleman would ever say such distasteful things about any woman. Especially one he’s never actually met.

  • King Of Bob

    Jailed for what? She did exactly nothing illegal.

  • King Of Bob

    And they will get arrested for harassment. Good plan..

  • King Of Bob

    Are you kidding me? You think there aren’t men out there who lie and exploit women for what they want? What world do you live in?

  • King Of Bob

    Exactly. It seems pretty clear to me this story is only bringing more people to her blog, which is only increasing public awareness of her. She’s getting her name out there, and that’s exactly what a young actress needs to do. She’s going about it in a weird way, but she’s still getting publicity.

  • Bulder

    Its true, but I don’t think women go to bars and clubs to find a husband . They go there to flirt ,to test the waters to tease men ,head games you know the drill ….its pretty hard to find a genuine person in that environment with loud music and phony people . Sure you may get a one night stand if you are really good looking guy but is rear and we all know how they end up .Part of dating I guess but is expansive and risky specially for men . She could say he was banging me while I was drunk and then ……you are done . Lawyers ……criminal record , they fingerprint them now eh ..anger management classes …..no Pardon for 5 years now eh . I work for the courts buddy I see it every day ,every day men are getting screwed ! It sickens me .Always the guy takes the hit . I want to help you guys .Women lie….

  • Guest

    And confirmed, Jason Goodis does not lie. I read about this girl before the story broke on the news. Her blog went live in August, I found it in September. His picture was on her blog and it seems to be confirmed based on all the Facebook pictures.

  • http://www.myspace.com/krantzstone Krantzstone

    Then you’re stealing from the restaurant, since the restaurant expects someone to pay, and if your “date” can’t pay it, or won’t pay it, or only pays their portion, then you’re still on the hook for your portion of dinner. Screwing over someone who (you believe) is screwing you over is one thing, but it’s not the fault of the restaurant or the server, and more often than not it’s the server who is held responsible for your dining and ditching and it comes out of their pay. That’s not cool, and it’s illegal. Mind games are childish, but this is criminal.

  • testaxc

    Erin Wotherspoon, the five course prostitute.

  • testaxc

    Oh please; no race or gender is free from stupidity. Please take a cyanide pill and then shoot yourself in the face to make sure it works.

  • Steven

    It was the TYPE of sites she visited.

  • King Of Bob

    No, it wasn’t. She’s on dating sites. No dating site will guarantee a long term relationship based on a single date. Nor do the people who use those sites. There is NO guarantee that any date will lead to a long lasting relationship.

  • King Of Bob

    Whether it’s their intention to meet a future husband or not, it happens. People meet at bars and eventually get married all the time. It sounds to me like you’re projecting your own personal issues here. The language you use is very telling.

    The last third of your post only further enforces the idea that you’re projecting your personal issues. You’re coming off as extremely misogynistic. You’re generalizing about a whole group of people who are not all the same. It’s no different than women who say “All men cheat.” Your personal experience with a small segment of a population of a group does not necessarily reflect the entire group. Your post reeks of prejudice against women in general.

  • Bulder

    I told you I work for the courts . How much more clear I can be . I see guys in tears all the time . I see fathers who have not seen their kids in long time . I see men who pay chilled support for kids that aren’t theirs . That’s Paternity fraud. Its very common . DNA testing should be mandatory . Women lie . A guy no to long a go try to light him self on fire . He was not a crazy person . Not at all. Some on call the media . Guess what ? They refuse to come . Men’s life is not important . Pretty Misandric eh … Just because our Media is not reporting it does not mean that the problem does not exist . Men’s Rights are Taboo in America ,don’t you get it ? When you see those things day after day and no one cares . It bugs you . My wife works here too . She has noticed the double standard too. Did you know that actually more boys get Raped then women . I know its shocking eh ..they lied to us about that too for decades . A top lawyers said that . You know who Rocco Galati is ? If you have a son you start to notice those things . Trust me .

  • Steven

    Ok Bob. Fine – my point is she is lying to these men. SOME of which seemed to be looking for very specific racial or religious attributes – almost like they were looking for more than a hookup.
    In any event – being manipulated and lied to is wrong.

  • Winner15

    How am I stealing if she is the one eating the dinner? Come one dude put your thinking cap on and be smarter than that!…lol

  • http://www.myspace.com/krantzstone Krantzstone

    Sorry, I assumed that when two people go out to eat dinner, that both people are going to eat something. Silly me. :P

  • http://www.myspace.com/krantzstone Krantzstone

    I agree. Deliberately lying and breaking someone’s heart just to get laid is much worse than lying to convince someone to buy you dinner. It’s not like she dined and dashed or stiffed her dates for the bill: she charmed them to pay for dinner, and they did. Not that I condone lying to people unless you have a reasonable suspicion that they may not be a trustworthy person, but in general, I think it’s safer for a lot of women to not be forthcoming with the truth about their personal details when dealing with strange men on the street. In this case, it’s clearly more self-serving than about personal safety and I don’t agree with it, but I also don’t understand the vehemence with which some commenters are responding, as if she did something truly heinous.

    People lie all the time in our society, and some of them are just little white lies, and others are more serious, but I think it is sexist to treat what this woman does with such scorn and abuse but let the bad behaviours of her male counterparts slide. I personally think the guys who lie to women to try and get them into bed are much worse, and I have not and would never do it, and I’d rather be honest and single than be a liar who gets laid. I’m a terrible liar anyway because I feel too guilty about lying to be able to do it with a poker face. :P

  • guest

    STFU

  • guest

    uuum bernardo was raping women long before he met homolka and long after he met her. she was like 10 years his junior was likely corrupted by the fact that he was a sick sick man. prolly something like you.

  • Bulder

    I don’t thing she is just an entitled women ….don’t pretend now . We are not that stupid . There is more then that .She’s got issues with men . She is mean to men . Just imagine if a guy was going around and doing this to women eh …immediately would be called Misogynistic pig . Just reverse it. The media would attack him so hard . Its a double standard and you now it .

  • Bulder

    Easy there .You are wrong . Homolka was fully participating . Who was more sick that’s debatable . But Ey, back to the article . Just imagine if a guy was going around and doing this to women ?! Just reverse it . He would immediately be called Misogynist and a pig ,right ? Don’t pretend now . Its a double standard and you know it . We live in very Hypocritical society . It pretty sexists .

  • Bulder

    Wrong . Latest study from Harvard shows that women enjoy sex more then men do .Multiple orgasm’s ,right ? They are brainwashing boys for decades to look manly and go after women which so stupid and sexist .’ Men Up’ campaigns is stupid too. Parents , schools …everything is a lie . Women are so much more horny then men . Women watch porn too.

  • Bulder

    Yup , there are a lot of White Knights and lot of just dumb, brain washed men out there . Sad .

  • Bulder

    Yes but who usually pays on first date ? Ha !
    The goods …..who enjoys sex more? Men or a women ? (a hint ) – Who gets multiple orgasms ? You are naïve and brainwashed .Its a 21 century . Think better . They were laying for decades .

  • guest

    No one is saying she is right but you and many others don’t seem to understand the concept (or your brains are working at a very slow pace) that men do the same thing i.e taking girls out expecting sex, and even if the guy isn’t interested he will sleep with said girl and NOT call or have any good intentions! this is not cute or funny and yet it clearly something that is joked about with guy friends over beers and every time you do that just know that a girl is plotting revenge. Those guys are misogynists. end of story!

  • Bulder

    You can erase my comments all you want ,but people are not that stupid , its obvious that she is out for revenge . She has issues with men . Maybe she hates her father or her mother planted the seed of hate towards men . Who knows …Absolutely there are men out there who are players and do mean things to women and that’s not nice !!

  • jaspy

    how does one make someone else pay the bill?

  • 1Spinning1

    I’m not sure I understand your comment. Did you follow the conversation?

    I never said the girl in the article didn’t have issues. She’s got plenty, and will pay for them later on in life, if not sooner because of the media attention. The media attention from TorontoLife, Daily Mail, Toronto Sun, Huffington Post, Uproxx, 10News (and this is a search in just 30 seconds).

    So where is the double standard here? Exactly what are you complaining about?

    If you’re saying there are men out there conning women into paying for dinner and then ditching them, show me. If the media is so one sided, show me an example.

    I think you have men raping women, or assaulting women, as the same as conning them into paying for dinner.

    Nice try though buddy. Very lame attempt at double standard issues. You’re as bad as the feminists you accuse of crying sexist at every chance.

  • guest

    If Men don’t have rights its because Women haven’t had rights either. We live in a backward world. For the entirety of the 1900′s women have had such limited rights. This is why things are the way they are in the court system. When there is equality between men and women in the economic world then there will be equality in the legal world. In the past a womens economy was building and making a home for her family – which the courts have long acknowledged and thats why men pay alimony. You need to think a little harder about what you do for a living sir!

  • guest

    women have multiple orgasms but they are smaller in intensity than a male orgasm. this is the difference. also a womans orgasm is harder to achieve unless it is with a familiar, trusted partner.

  • guest

    the fact you work for the legal system is exactly why i have no hope for the world most days

  • 1Spinning1

    Perhaps it’s not worth mentioning?

  • 1Spinning1

    Um….do you date men too? Because unless you’re bisexual, you have no idea how men behave on dates with women. You weren’t there.

    Now I have dated men from Toronto, and women (I’m bisexual), and let me tell ya, no gender is innocent. It’s the person, not the gender.

    Generalizing makes you look stupid. You should watch that.

  • PlantinMoretus

    I was talking about the street harassment.

  • Cheyne

    Please do not speak on behalf of all women when you speak about your preferences in sex. There is no such thing as a “real woman” and this saying makes me want to murder. Just because you do not prefer one night stands does not mean the rest of womankind agrees with you, and it also doesn’t mean that it is the bright line rule for what type of sex a woman should or should not want / enjoy. Some hit it and quit it is fun every now and then. Lstn bb im rllllllly sry you’re having such bad experience in bed, maybe if you stopped pushing your views / standards upon others and tried opening your mind and communicating more, you’d have a better time. Cause by your “real woman standard” seems like you’re having a pretty shit time, and I’m over here with my fake woman standards having back to back orgasms. So if you could also just not speak on subjects you have no idea about…

  • Bulder

    Bullshit . My wife comes like 3 or 4 times . I don’t think she faking it . I could see a lot of come so ….Male orgasms are more intense ??!! No way .A lot of guys pretend to make it look like is awesome. You don’t know what are you talking about . You sound like you are high school kid . Go to sleep ,please .

  • Bulder

    That’s the stupidest thing I ever heard . And don’t call me sir ,I work for living . You sound like you are high school kid .
    Listen very ,very careful because you are young . ‘ Men and women can’t never be equal because we are not the same ‘!!!! Capito ? Its a big fat lie what they are teaching you at Scholl. Its utopia .

  • 1Spinning1

    Regardless, you’re still generalizing. In fact, you even say “in general”. To quote you exactly, you wrote “Men don’t behave like that here, not in general. Unfortunately, some Toronto women do behave like the one in the article”.

    It’s that quote that I find extremely hypocritical. What you should have wrote is “Men don’t behave like that here, not in general. Women don’t behave like that here in general either, but unfortunately there’s always exceptions like the woman in this article”.

    Just like there are exceptions for men. For example, my girlfriend was followed home by two guys from the streetcar stop the other night. After repeated attempts to get her number, and her telling them she’s not interested, she hid inside a 7-11 to call me because they wouldn’t leave her alone. I wish I could say this is the first time I’ve heard of this, but the fact that bus stops will stop in between stops at night goes to show that Toronto ain’t innocent my friend.

    But go ahead and think that most men in Toronto don’t act like that….after all it’s just my anecdotal evidence.

  • Bulder

    ‘How do you’ Dupe “some one into a date if she does not like you ? How ?

  • PlantinMoretus

    Hoo boy. Reading comprehension.

    Re: Toronto men, I said “not in general”.

    Re: Toronto women, I said “some”.

    See? No generalizing.

  • 1Spinning1

    Viktor, is that you? Come on Viktor, don’t you get tired of spreading your woman hate everywhere? I mean really, Bulgaria isn’t big enough for you?

  • IHateFatChicks

    She’s mousy, unattractive, poor and uneducated. Nothing to see here.

  • IHateFatChicks

    Erin Wotherspoon is unattractive, mousy, a man-hater, a user, uneducated and poor. Sucks to be her. :)

  • happy thoughts

    you’re off the mark. this is funny. guys have been using women for years. they get a good conversation with a pretty lady and pick up the cheque. who cares. how will she be bitter? and retarded? you’re the bitter one lol

  • Steven

    Double standards? Woman kills husband, everyone asks why and asks if she was abused – man kills wife, and he’s scum.

    Woman molests boy and he’s lucky – man molests girl – he’s scum.
    Apparently you haven’t paying attention.

  • 1Spinning1

    Oh you poor angry victimized individual. Yes there are double standards everywhere, regarding both genders. However, that is not what my previous posts were discussing.

    What we were discussing, since you have a hard time following, is the double standard in this particular case. Bulder tried to insinuate that if a man were to be doing the same as the girl in this article, that he would be called a pig. How this is different from this girl being called a whore, or a b**ch, is beyond me. Seems to me that people do not condone lying to people, by either male or female.

    So again, I see no double standards in this particular case.

  • Steven

    Ahh, you poor distasteful non-empathetic female who attempts to use shaming language (unsuccessfully, btw, smirk) to minimize bad things that happen to males.

    No – people do not condone lying in dating. Despite my genetic weakness of whining due to being a male who actually believes in equality – I followed the main thread, but as with most threads there were side conversations that develop. You can keep up, right?

    Tip: don’t debate gender issues while attempting to us shaming language on a person who knows a) what it is and b) can bust you out for it.

    Also – showing your lack of empathy for a male who might have been victimized, while not acting the same way towards a female is called bigotry.

  • guest

    What she does is obviously awful.. Seems like she’s taking a revenge on sm1, or the other case practicing her actress skills… Anw it’s disgraceful! But reading the comments here, I bump into so many questions. There r points from active feminists and very aggressive dudes. I’m a girl, but not a feminist. Yes, I am happy for democracy n human rights. I’m just a naive, romantic n ordinary girl. I believe in true love, in families, in getting married n being loved by a husband… I guess many things depend on one’s background. I was raised in a happy family, trelated as a princess. N seeing mom being treated as a queen. Grandpa raised my dad to be a gentleman, to respect women. N that’s what my dad is teaching my younger bros to be like. I hear hw he’s advising my 20 year old bro to buy flowers when dating a girl, to open a door, to pay a bill in the restaurants. Because it’s a date, he says u want ur possibly a future wife to remember u as a greedy fella? What will u tell ur kids when they’ll ask abt ur first date? Iwant to be as happy as my mom, want tofind someone whom I can rely on, to be respected by him, to be loved. I don’t know maybe it’s not fashionable, not trendy in today’s world. But when some guys r scared of feminists, n others r just want take girls for a date just to have sex. Where we, thegirls that just want a simple happiness, shud find our dream guys? In another era perhaps.

  • Gongero

    she isn’t really doing anything men haven’t been doing for years anyways men will go out with multiple chicks take them to dinner maybe get to fuck them once and then they never call the chick again and move on ,nope i call double standards on this bullshit Men do this crap all the time and never get called out for it .She isn’t drowning puppies or killing kitty cats . get over it people .

  • http://www.myspace.com/krantzstone Krantzstone

    Totally agreed. The disproportionate reactive response to the situation and the ensuing misogyny says more about the sexism of the people hurling insults at this woman, than her morals. I don’t agree with what she’s doing, and I don’t think it’s a good thing, but the people baying for her blood and acting like she committed some heinous crime are either exaggerating because of some need to invoke internet outrage, or they’re deliberately and disingenuously making mountains out of molehills in order to push their own agenda of misogyny and using this woman’s antics as the perfect excuse to advertise their hatred of women.

  • guest

    I love what Erin has done, because lets be honest most of time dinner is the higlight of a date and you never call the guy again. If I was a restaurant owner I would call her and offer her a free meal. She has been creative in trying to promote herself and that is a rare quality. Erin if I was a guy I would totally take you to dinner

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  • tommywo

    I’ve gone out with “plate-lickers” like this b*tch before. There’s a reason why I only do coffee or drinks on a first date.

  • Joe Joeseph

    I see in the comments some kind of weird view that if a man takes a woman to a restaurant and then they both agree that they’d like to go back to the bedroom to enjoy sexual pleasure because they both like it — that somehow the man is using the woman. He’s not. OK. Queen Victoria’s dead.

  • Henry

    You can always tell you’ve hit a nerve with a guy when he starts crying about ‘shaming language’ and tries to claim he knows what you’re ‘really’ up to, and that it’s not working. Keep working that tinfoil hat, Dude!

  • Phydeux

    Just became a huge fan of Erin. Am convinced that she could use her expertise to hurt and/or exploit her way through any number of uber-douches … yet all she wants is to enjoy top-level cuisine … she rocks!

  • barloot

    Wait! This woman is willful committing what… I don’t know heart fraud? Intentional social malfeasance? Something, the end result is meal by trickery. And your response is fuck’em they hate women? Geez man how’d you get like that?

  • http://www.myspace.com/krantzstone Krantzstone

    I’ve read most of the comments on this page since this article was first posted (Disqus keeps e-mailing me every time someone posts here :P) and the majority of the comments are, in my view, clearly misogynistic and a total overreaction to what she’s doing. Feel free to read them yourself and come to your own conclusions, but that’s the general sense I got from the amount of vitriol being spewed on this page.

    It’s interesting that the one guy on here who actually did go on a date with her, doesn’t hold a grudge against her at all and seems to have enjoyed the date, and that speaks well of him and his self-confidence as a man.

  • Lisa

    As a Jewish woman who is sometimes offered to have my dinner paid for by a date, I mostly choose to pay for myself so as not to confuse a man into thinking he now deserves a booty call as a trade. It is an expectation of 90% of men out there that they get sex for buying you dinner, so don’t let the man pay. Pretending to be Jewish to take advantage of Jewish men on J-date is pathetic & disgusting! It wouldn’t hurt to learn how to cook chick, & pay back those men with a simple home-cooked meal if you can’t afford to spend a lot of money….RESPECT.

  • Steven

    Lol – yea – what Henry just ATTEMPTED to do what “if you say [x] (and despite you showing how they did it) that therefore you’re point is invalid”
    Sorry jackass – but, no.
    If a man makes a sexist comment, and gets called out for it by a woman, her “whining” about the comment, pointing it out, showing how it WAS sexist does not invalidate her comment.
    Wow, you really have no idea how to debate do you?

 

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