charley March 28, 2008 at 6:20 p.m.

"Tropical hoosegow"-surely only sub-tropical? Well, I looked on the map and it is closer than I thought. And as my son said "tropical" could be more of a state of mind instead of having a precise geographical denotation...

Casey March 28, 2008 at 7:07 p.m.

Great post tthis evening, Douglas Bell. Loved the Ferris Bueller reference...LOL. At least CB cannot hold any sort of " corporate leadership position " at the moment so his fellow cons are more or less protected.
As for his most recent article in The Sun - I attribute its contents to a pompous loser whose opnions hardly matter anymore although Lipsky probably grovels impatiently for any offering from his idol. The entire affair makes me ill, frankly.

kjopc March 28, 2008 at 7:32 p.m.

Ha! The OSC doesn't bend over backwards for Conrad Black, it bends over *forwards* and then greases up! It is so namby pamby that it doesn't even dare set a *date* for a hearing, no less actually dealing with Black's misdeeds.

Some say there's no point prosecuting Black for securities infractions. I disagree. Unless Black admits to ripping off shareholders and failing to comply with disclosure regulations, the OSC has no choice but to continue proceedings against him. Otherwise, Black will claim that the OSC endorsed his *innocence* by dropping what he'll surely call "frivolous" allegations.

Pro-Black consiracy theorists must know that every jurisdiction, including the OSC, is acting on orders from the faceless, overzealous forces of envy in the U.S. Yes folks, it's a world-wide plot orchestrated with the sole purpose of bringing down one rich, famous British Lord for absolutely no good reason except that he uses big words. Right.

Casey March 28, 2008 at 8:21 p.m.

" Pro-Black consiracy theorists must know that every jurisdiction, including the OSC, is acting on orders from the faceless, overzealous forces of envy in the U.S. Yes folks, it's a world-wide plot orchestrated with the sole purpose of bringing down one rich, famous British Lord for absolutely no good reason except that he uses big words. Right. " - kjopc March 28, 2008 at 7:32 p.m.

CB, himself, and his mousy mate, BA, stand at forefront of the lines of " pro Black conspiracy theorists ". Didn't they attribute his downfall to envy? Gimme a break....Can anyone anywhere categorically state and provide proof that CB has ever admitted that he was wrong, etc., about anything? Or that he has ever apologized for mistakes he has ever made? He even claims that he feels neither guilt nor shame ( nor pride - how big of him...NOT. ) about those exams he stole and sold for profit. CB is the poster boy for denial, hubris, dishonor, dishonesty. Anyone with sense sees and has seen through him all his life.

Casey March 28, 2008 at 11:07 p.m.

The public's right to know aka Freedom of Information - see link below - I guess we will funally learn where all that moola is, hopefully -

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=2...

kjopc March 29, 2008 at 1:44 a.m.

The pro-Black, anti-honesty forces are having a field day over at the National Post thanks to Black's latest column. Why doesn't Black thrill them with more about how wonderful a time he's having in prison and how much the inmates and guards love to hear him talk about his excellent days in the House of Lords?

http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs...

Casey March 29, 2008 at 4:32 a.m.

kjopc March 29, 2008 at 1:44 a.m.

" The pro-Black, anti-honesty forces are having a field day over at the National Post thanks to Black's latest column. Why doesn't Black thrill them with more about how wonderful a time he's having in prison and how much the inmates and guards love to hear him talk about his excellent days in the House of Lords? "

To respond to your question, CB is doing just that - thrilling his ignorant and morally, ethically and intellectually blind supporters with descriptions of his existence on Elba, where he views himself as a second Napoleon, having been unfairly sent as an innocent " freedom fighter ", passing his welcomed sojourn in some sad and pathetic fantasy - thinking great philosophical thoughts, reading, and writing materpieces of fiction. His dreamlike existence is mired in complete self denial that enables him to stoically and " courageously " issue forth what in his mind shall become his legacy for all future mankind and history. ( I think now is the time for me to be ill....lol ). To admit that he is really just Prisoner number ( insert number here ) in an 8 by 10 foot cell with another con as his cell mate is patently impossible and ridiculous - he is the martyr that his pathetic supporters claim him to be.

Lit_200 March 29, 2008 at 9:08 a.m.

Gnash, gnash, gnash, anyone?

Such a spiteful little group this AM. Rather nice writing for a change Casey.

I won't enter the fray and just allow the ABB to work itself into a froth over the injustice of CB still able to work his magic with the written word.

Speaking of which, how prescient can you be? Followers of the financiaql world will recall that a large merchant bank was just swallowed up by another financial house for pennies on the dollar, with the FED's emergency assistance. Here's what CB had to say about the future of the "chump" US economy last January:

"Once again, many of the leading US lending and merchant banks are suffering a swingeing stroke through their retained earnings. We may expect the Fed to arrange hasty banking marriages with fallen brides, as happened five to 15 years ago when Manufacturers Hanover, Chemical, Continental Illinois National, and other big U.S. banks vanished into the arms of more successful competitors. Lending and merchant banks will finally come together, but if Canada is any guide, the leaden lack of imagination of lenders will crush the enterprising spirit of the deal-makers, but not their avarice or uneven judgment of risk."

Does the felon (OK Casey?) know what he's talking about, or not?

Lit_200 March 29, 2008 at 9:27 a.m.

Casey, you bring forward the unsealing of Justice Colin Cambell's secrecy order, which is a good point and I ALMOST agree with you, because I'm big on the rights of the people to know.

Those records were sealed because it was the only way to protect Conrad Black's civil rights - due to a difference between the US and Canadian justice systems and How individual rights are protected in each jurisdiction.

Donna and I had a debate about this some time ago and it went like this:

Donna September 26, 2007 at 8:58 p.m.

" What do we have here? Is this a case of individual rights vs group rights? I thought this had been settled in Canada, although there are still holdouts who believe that the state, indeed, DOES have a right to be in the bedrooms (or the private affairs) of the nation.
For now, I merely pose the question: if the public's "right to know" conflicts with an individual's "right to a fair trial" ... i.e., to protect himself against the incursions of the state ... what is trumps? " - Lit 200

You raise some very valid and important points. I was initially going to post something along the lines of this being no big surpeise vis a vis Black and his personal agendastrumping everyone and everything else but your post stopped me in the nick of time. As much as I would love to blast Greenspan and Black and also realize that the rights of an individual probably trump those of the group although I have nothing upon which to base that presumption - merely a gut feeling. I welcome some real and honest to goodness debate on this and tangential issues."

I maintain now that the appeal court erred in releasing those documents until after Black's appeal is heard in the United States. Whatever is in the Canadian files could prejudice the deliberations of the appeals court of the 7th circuit in the United States when it considers Black's case.

Fintan March 29, 2008 at 9:29 a.m.

Great posts, kjopc and Casey, and not for the first time.

Poor Lit, just because I did not reply to her latest inanities instantamundo yesterday and, as she expected, come back immediately in response to her attacks on Casey, she concludes that I have retreated in defeat from the scene. LOL

Typical of Lit, however, who just can't get anything and still thinks His Lardship will rise Phoenix-like from the ashes and -- the mind boggles!

Now, dearie, let me make it clear that I can express agreement with those posters like Casey who frequently contribute something accurate and realistic to the debate, but I would never be so presumptious as to think she would need defending from a prime example of oligophrenia (as His lardship would say: look it up) like the Great Denier. Casey needs defending from Lit about as much as my dog needs defending from a rat he is savaging. Slapping my thighs and squeezing my aching ribs!

The explanation for my absence is that I have a life and interests beyond this blog. Lit should try getting same.

At about the same time she was wondering where I was and not wasting my time replying to her Dummheit, I wasn't even in Finland. Instead, I was enjoying a very good performance of Rigoletto at "Eesti Rahvusooper" (Estonian National Opera) in Tallinn. Then a nice meal in the old Hanseatic city (like being in a Walt Disney movie!) and a night in a hotel with my first and still only wife, back this forenoon on the hydrofoil, which can still run because of the unusually mild winter. Karma be praised.

There is something indefinably different about the way they perform operas in Estonia - definitely a lot has been inherited from the days of the Soviet Union, where not everything was bad. On the whole, I believe my Friday night was a lot more enjoyable than His Lardship's. LOL

As Barbara in BC points out, the unfortunate Smeagol-like obsessive creature leaf cunningly posts her poison when the Moderator is away, but it is harming TL's credibility a lot more than it is harming me in any way. She still produces no proof to back up her sick accusations and has lost any tiny bit of credibility she might have had, a long time ago. LOL

She is very worthy of the Black brigade of which she is part - a liar, coward and bluffer. It is scandalous that Toronto Life does not delete posts in which accusations of paedophilia are made, but on the other hand they are obviously the work of a twisted crank who is projecting her own warped desires onto someone else.

Meanwhile, His Lardship - no matter what he writes - is a prisoner with no control over his life. And poor Morticia is getting no "conjugal attention", because there is only one person on the planet who could stomach getting the leg over such a hideous old crone. And he is "temporarily confined".

ROFLMAO

Casey March 29, 2008 at 9:36 a.m.

"if Canada is any guide, the leaden lack of imagination of lenders will crush the enterprising spirit of the deal-makers, but not their avarice or uneven judgment of risk ".
Does the felon (OK Casey?) know what he's talking about, or not? " - Lit_200 March 29, 2008 at 9:08 a.m.

CB can certainly dispense advice on overthetop spending and avarice. As for " knowing what he's talking about ", I have this to say - any CEO dumb enough to embezzle virtually millions ( and I include the 400 million he, et.al stole from Hollinger from 1997 to 2003 ) and not expect to get nailed, has zero clue what he's doing and looting on cush a grand scale is enough to convince me never to trust his judgement in financial situations.
I shall await the current Globe and Mail pursuit in the Ontario Appeals courts as it attempts to pry open for publuc consumption, CB's present financial situation.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/s...
There are 2 things that are certain in life - death and taxes, to quote an oft used cliche / truth and here's a third - CB should stick to counting how many miniature battleships he possesses, because anything vis a vis investing, running a public company and being aware always of his fiduciary responsibilities to his shareholders is a CB big fat zero - you loot, you pay back - that's a certainty too.....:-). And you land in jail a convicted felon. Perhaps you could elucidate for this blog why someone who is sitting in an 8 by 10 foot jail cell for stealing would have an ounce of credibility in money matters.

Casey March 29, 2008 at 9:38 a.m.

cush = s u c h - I have dyslexia of the fingers it seems...lol - sorry for typo

Casey March 29, 2008 at 10:02 a.m.

Moreover, Lit_200, CB can console himself, as he thinks great thoughts, reads doorstopper books and writes boring, longwinded, pontificating and not believable columns, that he still retains his British title. This and a buck will earn him a cup of coffee.
I would sooner take advice from Mark Kipnis ( lol ) than listen to what old blowhard CB has to say. But far be it for me to tell him how to pass the many, many days and nights holed up against his will in a cell shared with another societal scumbag.

Fintan March 29, 2008 at 10:44 a.m.

Casey: "This and a buck will earn him a cup of coffee." LOL

I'm glad a cup of coffee is so cheap in Canada. It costs around €2 here, which is nowadays over $3. Such is life.

None of us civilised people would really want even a dickhead and inveterate evildoer like His Lardship to be incarcerated in inhumane conditions like those in Guantanamo (which he and Morticia feels is a wonderful place) or the Third World prisons we see in Hollywood movies - cockroaches, regular beatings, rotten food at irregular intervals. It is enough to see him out of circulation for the next five years or so, after which he will always bear the label of not only an ex-con, but - and much, much worse - an ex-con who is unrepentant and has learned nothing from his experience and consequently done nothing to divert himself from his criminal course of life. Besides, even if he can have the odd column published in the kinds of papers that are read by only the "converted" anyway, he has lost the power he earlier had to choose the compositions of editorial staffs, hire those who wrote what he liked and fire those who didn't. And he will never regain that power. He will forever be "the disgraced press baron Conrad Black".

He will never again set foot in the House of Lards in London. Even the Tories there are embarrassed by him and have "withdrawn the whip" = disowned him.

No matter how much of a brave face he and his supporters put on it, even a low-security American prison is not a place I'd want to spend even one week, much less 286.

Even if he is lucky enough to experience no violence and retain his anal virginity (if he still has it), the limitations of prison are not enjoyable. Think of sex, which most of us - I assume - enjoy! He will have none until 2013, unless he decides to swing the other way.

We all saw him waxing a maple leaf on TV, but for the next five years he's going to be waxing his carrot - when and if he can get the privacy. The food, although probably adequate, will be nowhere near as good as he has become accustomed to - and forget the fine wines, or indeed any.

He will get to see Morticia at most nine times a month - for thirty minutes a time and for as long as she keeps up the effort.

All prisoners - especially white-collar ones - have a vastly better life in prisons here and even more so in neighbouring Sweden. They have personal TVs in their cells and can work from prison (in which case they have to pay a fairly nominal sum for their keep), get day release, weekend passes, conjugal visits and lots of things like that, including 50% remission for first-time offenders - but I have never heard of people queuing up to get into even soft nicks like these.

And if His Lardship thinks Coleman is such a wonderful place, why is he prepared to waste further vast sums of money on his appeal?

What a dipsh1t that fool is!

Lit_200 March 29, 2008 at 10:54 a.m.

Has Fintan completely flipped his lid? I made no such comments to which he refers. Even though I am used to his inanities, this latest batch of nonsense really leaves me scratching my head - all sort of imagined posts that I never wrote. Poor chap must have been REALLY stung to the point of having nightmares about the way I backed him into a corner on another thread.

Take a tylenol and gather your wits about you, Fintad!

Casey March 29, 2008 at 11:02 a.m.

" He will get to see Morticia at most nine times a month - for thirty minutes a time and for as long as she keeps up the effort. " - Fintan

He should count his lucky stars that BA is only permitted what you claim above - the mental and physical torture of passing even 10 more minutes with BA would be and is sufficient to qualify as visit with the devil with a facelift and so much botox and collagen that CB can no longer distinguish whether she is smiling or frowning.......

Lit_200 March 29, 2008 at 11:04 a.m.

In replying to Fintan (who should count his lucky stars that he will never come face to face with the Lord of Crossharbour or be forced to match wits with him) Conrad Black might well echo Winston Churchill's reply to the lady who said, "you are drunk."

"Yes madame, I do happen to find myself in prison, however, I shall be free one day but you, my dear, will ALWAYS be locked up in that dark and poisonous gaol between your ears."

Karma be praised, indeed!

ROTFALMAO, so to speak

Lit_200 March 29, 2008 at 11:07 a.m.

Casey, casey, casey... *sigh*

Lit_200 March 29, 2008 at 11:11 a.m.

Casey: somewhere in the fastness of her own mind:

Conrad Black is a shltstick stupid dishonest theaf who hasn't the brains of a cockroach. In fact he IS a cockroach, not a human being. He is an insect, not worthy of even being alive. Cockroaches should be stepped on and not allowed to enter the homes or minds of honest people. Stamp out all cockroaches and their ugly wives.

Does that just about sum up your feelings about the Blacks Casey?

Lit_200 March 29, 2008 at 11:13 a.m.

Goodness! thief! Sorry!

Fintan March 29, 2008 at 11:22 a.m.

I see I'm riling Lit again. LOL. Always gets up her nose when I point out how bleak life is and will remain for His Lardship and "Satan in Stilettos" Morticia.

Why does Lit think I would lose out in a contest of wits with His Lardship Baron Black of Crosswaysshagged? Which of us was at the opera last night and which was watching whatever channel Bubba chose on TV? "Redneck Talent Parade", I expect. Which of us was in a nice room at the SAS Radisson with an attractive Finnish woman and which sharing a tiny cubicle with another hairy-arsed American felon?

If what His Lardship has is a superior intellect and that's what it gets you, I'd better start consuming even more substances that detroy brain cells. ROFLMAO

Thinking of His Lardship's sex life, here's a classic of funny music by a really great artiste that sums it up very nicely. wait about six seconds for it to play:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yd4cW4hZq...

My sides are aching from laughing at you.

I expect I'm close to triggering a jekyll-hyde transformation and leaf will appear soon. And maybe even Cory, if he isn't out playing dodgems.

BMAL!

Lit_200 March 29, 2008 at 11:32 a.m.

Ah Fintan... you really are too, too predictable.

What does "I am slapping my leg and my sides are aching from laughing at you" really mean, old fellow?

Does it mean "I am really grinding my teeth in frustration and rage but I will tell the world I am actually laughing... no one will know." ??

Only your hairdresser will know for sure.

You forgot so I will add, at your expense

Karma be praised that Fintan can't find the words he needs! Karma be praised that he shows himself to be a foolish cardboard character from a fourth-rate novel.

ROTFALMAO! Oh goodness, my sides hurt! HAW HAW HAW!!

Fintan March 29, 2008 at 11:50 a.m.

Yeeesss! Lit is in the throes of transformation, writhing, seething and soon Mr. Jekyll - sorry mr. jekyll - will appear, but I still don't expect any proof of her insane accusations. LOL

I hope lit enlightens leaf about what AP means and why I'm going there to witness a major event early next month. Lit is the aspect that knows how to google. Poor dear(s), you'll have to do without my wisdom for some time, as I find it too much hassle to visit Internet cafés except when really necessary.

But I'll be back in plenty of time to gloat at His Lardship's appeal being shot down. Then we'll see how long people will want to read drivel written by a felon. Maybe some of those papers should also publish articles by Bubba. They can always have sub-editors polish up his spelling and grammar - and he probably has more to say and is more honest than His Lardship and Lady Botox Morticia put together.

Tears in my eyes from laughing at you losers in denial.

Lit_200 March 29, 2008 at 11:58 a.m.

Poor old Fintan: I will finish off your feckless post for you old fellow:

Karma be praised

and

ROTFALMAO

Casey March 29, 2008 at 12:20 p.m.

" Does that just about sum up your feelings about the Blacks Casey? " - Lit_200 March 29, 2008 at 11:11 a.m.

No, they sum up YOUR attempts to put words in my mouth and frankly, I would have thought games like one are beneath you. Obviously, I was and am wrong. Grow up - for someone who certainly posts and sounds like an older adult, try behaving like one. You are an insulting, rude old windbag and this blog is actually diminshed everytime you posts somthing stupid as that which you attributed to me.

Fintan March 29, 2008 at 12:55 p.m.

"You are an insulting, rude old windbag and this blog is actually diminshed everytime you posts somthing stupid as that which you attributed to me" LOL, Casey, couldn't have put it better myself.

Here's a funny story about a politician who is actually quite a pleasant sort in person and normally intelligent, but not when he stops thinking with the thing between his ears and the thing in his trousers takes over:
http://www.hs.fi/english/article/Foreign...

But at least he doesn't steal anything and he has better taste in women than His Lardship.

GravityLevity2 March 29, 2008 at 1:33 p.m.

I haven't seen Conrad's gaolhouse column. Those of you who have, can you tell me, is it properly framed by the paper's editors to remind the readers that the column has also been edited and approved by the staff of Coleman?

Casey March 29, 2008 at 1:38 p.m.

Fintan March 29, 2008 at 12:55 p.m.

"You are an insulting, rude old windbag and this blog is actually diminshed everytime you posts somthing stupid as that which you attributed to me"
" LOL Casey, couldn't have put it better myself. "

Lol, thanks, Fintan but he had it coming - I sometimes think Lit_200 is a born masochist addicted to driving posters batty. But he's in good company with that other fruitcake, CB.

Casey March 29, 2008 at 1:45 p.m.

GravityLevity2 March 29, 2008 at 1:33 p.m.

" I haven't seen Conrad's gaolhouse column. Those of you who have, can you tell me, is it properly framed by the paper's editors to remind the readers that the column has also been edited and approved by the staff of Coleman? "

Here's the link - check it out for yourself....

http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs...

Casey March 29, 2008 at 2:09 p.m.

" If Federal Reserve chairman Ben Bernanke and Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson can keep the ball in the air to Election Day without China breaking its currency’s peg to the U.S. dollar, McCain should win. " - from latest CB offering

CB HOPES McCain wins because CB's recurring fantasy is to be pardonned by the next President if he happens to be a Republican. CB is one of the most blatantly obvious asskissers to come along in awhile. And the transparent fool harbours zero shame about his disgusting toadying - to anyone and everyone in a position to do something - a favour - for the pompous jerk. If he had a working brain he would shut the hell up and quit posting stuff that tries to demonstrate how great things are behind bars, how he hasn't had so much spare time to read and think and write as is presently available to him and how terrific his fellow cons, staff, etc. are and " I just LOVE my current confinement and the solitude and refuge it delivers, and the opportunities given to him in his ' confinement ' to write for that legacy he intends to leave for history..." yadda, yadda, yadda. Like anyone believes this crap.

kjopc March 29, 2008 at 3:07 p.m.

Conrad Black (Inmate # 18330-424) makes a mockery of his incarceration by continuing to work as a columnist for The New York Sun and National Post newspapers.

He's effectively operating a business while in custody.

BTW, the email address for the Bureau of Prisons at Coleman is COA/PUBLICINFORMATION@BOP.GOV .

Fintan March 29, 2008 at 3:09 p.m.

Casey, I think I'll print out your post @ 2.09 p.m. and frame it! If jail is such a wonderful place as His Lardship would have us believe, no wonder several million Americans have chosen to make it their home. LOL I bet Finnish prisons are among the "easiest" in the world, the Swedish ones even better, but I won't be rushing out to commit a crime serious enough to get me into one of them.

GravityLevity2, you raise a very insightful question when you ask "...is it properly framed by the paper's editors to remind the readers that the column has also been edited and approved by the staff of Coleman?"

I'm afraid I can't answer that with any accuracy, but just look at the bio they publish for His Lardship. Bit out of date, don't you think?

http://www.nationalpost.com/opinion/colu...

As for approval by the staff at Colemen, etc., remember that His Lardship and Morticia are two of the most mendacious people on the planet. Even if a text that he sends out by e- or snailmail is approved by the staff at Coleman, there is no guarantee that it will be published in that form. After all, it is customary for texts to be sub-edited by magazines that publish them. And there is nothing to prevent a collaborator from adding to and modifying texts.

And how do we know that Morticia is not writing them on the basis of the hints he gives her during her visits? The hag can visit him for 30 minutes at a time up to nine times a months. More than enough for him to outline a column and let her finish it off. It's not like she had a lot of other things to do. LOL

But one thing hasn't changed, no matter how many columns he has published, he is a cobvicted crook in a prison, where he will remain for years, and she is an old crone who grows more ridiculous and pointless by the day.

Karma be praised.

ROFLMAO @ that pathetic and so passé pair.

leaf March 29, 2008 at 3:13 p.m.

kjopc (am or fm?)

CB is only doing it to nag fickton, the finnish geographer, anthropologist and dilettante philosopher, who couldn't get published if his life depended on it.

raotplaf*

* rolling all over the place laughing at fickton

Fintan March 29, 2008 at 3:35 p.m.

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dr March 29, 2008 at 3:37 p.m.

COA/PUBLICINFORMATION@BOP.GOV

Dear Sir:

Conrad Black (Inmate # 18330-424) makes a mockery of his incarceration by continuing to work as a columnist for The New York Sun and National Post newspapers.

He's effectively operating a business while in custody

dr

Fintan March 29, 2008 at 3:49 p.m.

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leaf March 29, 2008 at 3:54 p.m.

my god fickton, you regard your own "prose" with much admiration. i don't know if anyone bothered to re-read your sad whining a 2nd time around but i sure didn't.

as i told the blond, a quick search will establish that i post my accusations and whatever i please whenever i please.

i know it doesn't please you but ask me if i care.

sraotplawf*

* still rolling all over the place laughing at whining fickton

Fintan March 29, 2008 at 4:06 p.m.

Good point, dr. Just a thought: Since my name and address are known to His Lardship, because I have sent him e-mails from my own account and will not say anything behind a person's back that I won't say to his face, it is not entirely beyond the bounds of possibility that leaf's vicious threats against me, the hundreds of nuisance calls at night and the two spurious reports to the Finnish police that I have committed illegal acts of abuse against children, are part of an attempt to silence me. I have been, after all, one of the most vocal critics of His Lardship and Morticia. Nor is it entirely beyond belief that His Lardship himself and/or some person or persons close to him are behind leaf. Not that I would wish to accuse anyone in a libellous way, mind, wink, wink, nudge, nudge.

Food for thought. Remember, as free concerned citizens, we are all entitled to express our suspicions to the proper authorities. If they look into the matter and check e-mail communications from His Lardship's and Morticia's accounts and the accounts of a few others close to them, won't we all feel so relieved if those investigations reveal that they are innocent in this respect and leaf is really just a seriously deranged and dangerous flake.

After all, His Lardship is already facing quite an uphill - indeed vertical - battle in his appeal, and the last thing he needs is to be associated with an Internet stalker who threatens violence against people who are not so complimentary about Baron Black of Doublecrosser.

LOL

P.s. Go ahead and delete this. I've got a copy anyway.

leaf March 29, 2008 at 4:14 p.m.

how many such queries do you think you'll need to post before realizing that neither DB nor TL give a flying fukk about you?

who is it that posted his phone # on the blog in the first place?

yup, it's that guy fickton, the one that's much smarter than CB.
haw haw haw

the same one who went and got a gun because he's afraid of the phone ringing in the middle of the night.

Casey March 29, 2008 at 4:20 p.m.

" sraotplawf* " - leaf March 29, 2008 at 3:54 p.m.

The letters posted by you are obviously abreviations to, I surmise, save you the time and energy to type out the entire phrase, which begs the following question - why, after posting the acronym, do you then go to the trouble of posting the entire phrase anyway? Just asking.....lol

Thanks for post re " framing " my 2:09 pm post...lol -what is sad is that CB takes himself seriously and has no idea that most intelligent, honest and ethical individuals are laughing at him - to his face ( before his convictions, they laughed at him behind his back ....for years ).

Casey March 29, 2008 at 4:21 p.m.

Thanks for post re " framing " my 2:09 pm post...lol -what is sad is that CB takes himself seriously and has no idea that most intelligent, honest and ethical individuals are laughing at him - to his face ( before his convictions, they laughed at him behind his back ....for years ). - meant for Fintan - sorry

leaf March 29, 2008 at 4:23 p.m.

don't forget that you've also provided TL with your address, and the McCain camp.
what about prosecutor Sussman and the RCMP? did you also give them the full details of your whereabouts?

it'd be hard to point out anything at CB my dear naïve fickton.

now go and put some bullets in that pistol. it's useless without those.

Fintan March 29, 2008 at 4:26 p.m.

"yup, it's that guy fickton, the one that's much smarter than CB."

yup, it's the guy "fickton" who is sitting here in the comfort of his own home, not in a tiny 10 x 8 foot cell, who can have some nookie when he wants it, and whose arsehole is safe from unwelcome invasion. That's about as dumb as a person can get, eh leafie?

Oh, and my phone doesn't ring in the middle of the night, at least not the number you have. People get insurance just in case. Want to come and try?

Now, why don't you finally tell us: was it daddy, a brother, an uncle, a trusted carer - or maybe even mummie - who did those terrible things to you and made you what you are - a malicious, but pathetic, powerless bag of wind, who loses it completely when anal penetration is mentioned? Get over it! And get a life!

You'll miss me for the several weeks that I'll be away from this blog starting next week. Gotta see a dog in AP about a man I want shot. But you can imagine I'm still here and continue to work out your fantasies about me. I do my best to please. Hee-hee.

ROFLMAO @ your loserness.

Fintan March 29, 2008 at 4:33 p.m.

Good night all, think I'll have an early night as tomorrow is going to be a sunny day and I'll take a trip to one of the beautiful Baltic islands nearby and, while I walk my dog in the still snow-blanketed terrain, reflect on what a loser I am compared with His Lardship there in sunny and warm Florida.

Now leaf, you have the floor. Enjoy!

BMAL @ a sad sack neurotic!

Casey March 29, 2008 at 4:35 p.m.

'Night, Fintan. Pleasant dreams....

leaf March 29, 2008 at 4:42 p.m.

it gets better all the time!

now i'm copying your posts too (specially the one at 3:49pm), just in case they get removed.
i've got to show my friends otherwise they won't believe me.
too funny. too too funny.

i imagine the "proper authorities" reading the sad childish story of a man posting his phone # on a blog about Conrad Black and his wife "Morticia" , receiving crank calls as a result and complaining to the USJD about it!!!

maybe it'll get published after all, in some 'stupid criminals' site.
i'll give it a shot when i find a suitable site.
mind if i include your phone #, fickton?

dr March 29, 2008 at 6:50 p.m.

Leaf really is a sick bastard. I suggest we all boycott this site AND Toronto Life until s/he is restrained from posting.

charley March 29, 2008 at 9:18 p.m.

Dr. Jekyll is the good guy, Mr Hyde is the maniac.

Fintan March 30, 2008 at 1:38 a.m.

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Fintan March 30, 2008 at 3:07 a.m.

dr: "Leaf really is a sick bastard. I suggest we all boycott this site AND Toronto Life until s/he is restrained from posting."

You are right about the first part, and I think there is something more sinister behind leaf than just a sicko sociopath. In fact, I'd have quit posting on this site once His Lardship went to the slammer, but I won't allow a bully to drive me away and will return only to annoy her and whoever is behind her. Unless, of course, Toronto Life blocks both leaf's IP address and mine.

I believe TL just doesn't have the technical ability to block posts from anyone's IP address, or else someone is not playing an honest game. Several posts in which leaf calls me a child molester, paedophile, etc., have remained on an earlier thread for two days now.

Charlie: I know which was Jekyll and which Hyde in Stevenson's novel, but was indulging in a little poetic licence and deliberate confusion to illustrate the strange conundrum of the lit/leaf/cory multiple personality shell game.

Now I'll have a look at the UK papers to see has His Lardship's latest gift to the world of literature even registered on this side of the Atlantic and how.

P.s. Leaf still hasn't produced the proof of her allegations or told us who did that awful thing to make her what se is. Big bag of foul wind. ROFLMAO

Fintan March 30, 2008 at 3:31 a.m.

Here's the guy His lardship is pinning his hopes on:

http://www.private-eye.co.uk/sections.ph...

Lit_200 March 30, 2008 at 8:32 a.m.

Conrad Black - rather forelornely I suspect, but still bravely - is pinning his hopes on the idea that justice will at last be done and he will be released once an appeal court rules that he was ruthlessly savaged by a US prosecution team eager for a trophy victory in the battle against white-collar crime.

The appeal court of the 7th circuit will decide whether, in fact, justice still does prevail in the United States.

Lit_200 March 30, 2008 at 8:37 a.m.

Meanwhile, it appears, the authorities at the Coleman correctional institution are wisely allowing Conrad Black to write, and to give the world the benefit of his broad powers of observation and his considerable knowledge of global economic affairs.

Fintan March 30, 2008 at 9:24 a.m.

Haw, haw, haw ...

"... and to give the world the benefit of his broad powers of observation and his considerable knowledge of ..."

Poor lit! As Hitler is reported to have said in late April 1945: "Wer zweilfelt noch an den Endsieg?" He was a defeatist compared with the terminally naive Twit. I expect leaf will turn up soon now that the hydra is awake. Ha-ha-ha.

If His Lardship is so smart, what is he doing where he is? ROFLMAO @ such complete idiocy.

Casey March 30, 2008 at 10:33 a.m.

Lit_200 March 30, 2008 at 8:32 a.m.

" Conrad Black - rather forelornely I suspect, but still bravely - is pinning his hopes on the idea that justice will at last be done and he will be released once an appeal court rules that he was ruthlessly savaged by a US prosecution team eager for a trophy victory in the battle against white-collar crime. "

Not meaning to burst your little bubble re " trophy victory " but I do know that at very least, Sussman and Ruder had never heard of CB prior to charges....lol. Most outside of Canada and UK had, indeed. CB was no more a trophy pursuit than you, dear Lit_200. No doubt that CB views himself as some big fat award to the USJD, but that was and is because he is a legend in his own mind.

Casey March 30, 2008 at 10:46 a.m.

Lit_200 March 30, 2008 at 8:37 a.m.

" Meanwhile, it appears, the authorities at the Coleman correctional institution are wisely allowing Conrad Black to write, and to give the world the benefit of his broad powers of observation and his considerable knowledge of global economic affairs. "

I know - this statement by you is really meant to demonstrate your inside knowledge of the wisdom of Coleman " Correctional Institution " ( you could have simply typed jail - why the ridiculous and flowery verbosity? )but basically? - you have no clue what you are talking about and would do yourself a favor by posting something that smakcks of sense and intelligence when you do so - your defense of a convicted scammer and loser, while unrelenting, is now just plain stupid. No one here bothers to refute your posts anymore except occasionally Fintan and me....when we have nothing better to do....

Fintan March 30, 2008 at 11:50 a.m.

"No one here bothers to refute your posts anymore except occasionally Fintan and me....when we have nothing better to do...."

Quite, Casey! I'm doing it just to amuse myself, since I'm near or at the computer so much anyway. It's nice to take five minutes' break from what I'm doing and poke more fun at the Black Guards! LOL

On the other hand, a suspicion just occurred to me: Could it be that Lit is really a wag, a person with an impish sense of humour who is trying to wind us up by putting forward preposterously outlandish arguments? Only pretending to be serious?

Years ago, an acquaintance of mine - a very waggish person - wrote a letter to the city library committee here and complained about Donald Duck comics being available in the children's reading rooms. He pointed out that Donald wore a jacket, but no pants, and was "living in sin" with Daisy. That, he argued, was not suitable reading for children.

He was just having a giggle to amuse his colleagues in the office. But - they took him seriously in city hall and the matter went on the agenda and was debated by the full committee!!!! Then the story even made the international media - rather like the thieving squirrel last summer. LOL

Could we be making the same mistake about Lit?

His Lardship is in jail. That can be said in a hundred euphemistic ways, but he's still in the hoosegow, and he can't just decide to take his dog for a walk on the spur of the moment the way any of us little - but free - people can.

The food is nowhere nice as he has been used to. There is no booze, no fine cigars.

It's going to be many years before he has any how's yer uncle, and so on and so on ...

Yet Lit is trying to tell us His Lardship is somehow privileged! Definitely not to be taken seriously.

ROFL

Casey March 30, 2008 at 1:23 p.m.

" On the other hand, a suspicion just occurred to me: Could it be that Lit is really a wag, a person with an impish sense of humour who is trying to wind us up by putting forward preposterously outlandish arguments? Only pretending to be serious? " - Fintan

Funny, but I thought the same thing....LOL. No one willingly portrays themself as so unrelentingly stupid ( several months following convictions ) re CB and his " innocence " unless possibly, he or she is INTENDING to stir up rage, etc. What a waste of time, though for Lit_200 - I suppose he really IS either someone closely connected to the Black family OR he's simply a fruitcake, like his idol.

Casey March 30, 2008 at 2:02 p.m.

I was reading up on the sad news that Priscilla Presley had been, together with having endured other and numerous facial cosmetic procedures, injected by a fraudulent " doctor from Argentina and as I viewd the most recent photos of Presley, I was indeed horrified. And I was reminded instantly of the same appearance re BA - neither possesses the ability now to create facial expressions - they are actually only able to stare ( there is a Youtube posting capturing Presley on a recent " Dancing With The Stars " episode and it is scary what this poor woman now looks. BA has the same look - a complete and total inability to register anything on her strange - looking face. In fact, BA's face is horrifying to look at. What IS IT that motivates such obviously wealthy and supposedly smart women to DO this to themselves? BA is grotesque looking with a face that belies the rest of her body and neck - a wrinkled crone with turkey - gobbler skin. And THIS is what appealed / appeals to CB? God help him...*sigh*.

Fintan March 30, 2008 at 2:22 p.m.

Casey asks a good question about why the likes of Morticia go to such rounds to make themselves look what they think is attractive. I guess it's a desire to be something special, to be able to look down on everyone else, and in her case massive insecurity and low self-esteem as well.

People like that become utterly obsessed with themselves, which explains their total lack of empathy, their complete absence of - indeed hostility to - a social conscience, and many other of the attributes that make her so hateful - in addition to being such a caricature as a crone.

She looks like she's had so many face-lifts that she'll have a beard and a dimple on her chin if she has many more of them. LOL

I recently discovered that the stuff they make botox from is actually a deadly poison called botulin - the stuff that kills in very tiny amounts through food poisoning. Injecting much of that stuff into the facial muscles is bound to affect the brain as well. Not that she needs extraneous sources of toxins; she is a major source in her own right. That woman is hate incarnate, Satan in stilettos.

Talking of stilettos, have you noticed how she walks in them, her body leaning forward, her bony butt protruding backwards - "here's me head and me arse is coming".

"And THIS is what appealed / appeals to CB? God help him..." Again I agree, Casey. But, as I once heard an old farmer say: "Sure, if you were in love with a dungheap, you wouldn't notice a crooked straw."

Better stop before I upset "leaf".

ROFLMAO

Casey March 30, 2008 at 2:44 p.m.

And THIS is what appealed / appeals to CB? God help him..." Again I agree, Casey. But, as I once heard an old farmer say: "Sure, if you were in love with a dungheap, you wouldn't notice a crooked straw." - Fintan

CB's puzzling adoration of BA is an excellent example of that old cliche that " beauty is in the eye of the beholder ", I guess. BA's face is that which only a parent could love....lol. And someone as blind as CB. My take on this wierd coupling is that it says more about the strangeness that is CB and less about BA, poor woman.

Fintan March 30, 2008 at 3:06 p.m.

"I guess. BA's face is that which only a parent could love..." - Casey

In fact, there doesn't seem to have been much love from her parents, either. Her father vamoosed with another woman and left her mother and her when she was only a little girl. Then, when she was fourteen, her mother showed her the door. Of course, we have to bear in mind that this is Morticia's own account of things, and if she said today was Sunday I'd look at the calendar before believing her.

All in all, something went very badly wrong with the way she was parented. It would also be interesting to know how her siblings and half-siblings turned out, but they are never mentioned.

Why His Lardship fell for her? Probably on the rebound. He was never used to not having his own way in everything, and then the mother of his children dumped him - smart woman and she probably suffered a lot with him before her cup was full, but it must have been a major blow to his ego.

Then along comes Morticia, attracted to the smell of money like flies to the smell of (fill in your own word), quotes one of his boring books back to him verbatim and probably could [censored by Moderator] a golfball [censored by Moderator] through [deleted by Moderator] of half-inch garden hose, and the world's most enduring mutual admiration society came into being.

Let us thank karma that they never had any offspring together. They would probably have been even worse than the scofflaw son who plays dodgems in traffic in a busy city.

By the way, I saw a truly beautiful sunset on the Baltic this evening. A sky of pure burnished gold. Made my think how fortunate I am to be free, albeit not a millionaire.

Karma be praised.

Casey March 30, 2008 at 3:59 p.m.

Fintan March 30, 2008 at 3:06 p.m.

LOL

Lit_200 March 30, 2008 at 6:05 p.m.

Luckily, there are still well trained intellects who can appreciate the power and the wit of Conrad Black's columns. Even before Black was making the financial world sit up and take notice with his extraordinarily insightful columns, George Galt, a highly regarded reviewer and writer in his own right with the Literary Review Of Canada , had some pithy things to say about the literary Lord Black:

"Conrad Black has been sentenced to six-and-a-half years in a U.S. prison. In the wake of his sentence, the talk around the nation's water coolers understandably surrounds the man's life in business -- and the misdeed he [supposedly] committed to earn this jail time.

"Yet Canadians would do well to remember that the man headed to jail is also an accomplished author. His reputation as such preceded his rise to corporate power -- and it will likewise survive his fall.

"Armed with his powerful intellect, his cattle-prod invective and the ornate prose that can make him sound like an incensed 18th-century pamphleteer, Conrad Black has from the beginning of his authorial career chosen subjects that have given him an advantageous platform for his conservative views.

"He established his bona fides as a historian in 1977 with Duplessis, a revisionist life of the mid-20th century Quebec premier. With that biography, he also began his career as a combative iconoclast eager to blast away at the received wisdom of the Canadian intellectual establishment and the country's political left."

Casey March 30, 2008 at 6:32 p.m.

Lit_200 March 30, 2008 at 6:05 p.m.

And for every positve statement about CB, I can produce 5 that disparage him as an author, businessman, corporate CEO, investor, financier, lawyer, wannabe historian with well documented proof -tis a *pithy* that CB,especially with such praise from George Galt, still managed to wind up behind bars in a US federal prison. Whatever positive achievements attributed to CB, this *pithyful* individual threw it all away by stealing millions from his company and its shareholders. The future CB will be remembered for his crimes that will overshadow any accomplishments he manages to leave for posterity. " I am not a crook ", Richard Nixon's famous statement has also found its way into the big fat mouth of Conrad Black.

Lit_200 March 30, 2008 at 11:25 p.m.

It has often been said, if Conrad Black is so clever, how did he end up in jail? There are many answers to that but the most succinct is that the justice system in the United States is extremely flawed.

GravityLevity2 March 31, 2008 at 1:10 a.m.

"if Conrad Black is so clever, how did he end up in jail? There are many answers to that but the most succinct is that the justice system in the United States is extremely flawed."

Way to compliment your own intelligence, Lit, since you had this figured out, and clever Connie, who had no basic human need to be met by doing business in the US, voluntarily chose to set up shop there--even though he had been in legal trouble there before (another corrupt plot against him, do you think?)

To test two proverbs, since it wasn't a case of once bitten twice shy, Connie's returning to the scene of the almost-trangression of the 1980s may have been a case of a dog returning to his vomit. He wasn't smart enough to stay away.

Fintan March 31, 2008 at 2:01 a.m.

GravityLevity2 - good one. There's such a thing as being too clever, but not smart. That's why in about six hours from now His Lardship will have been a jailbird for four full weeks - with at least 282 to go. Ouch!

Didn't someone once say that Wagner's music is not as bad as it sounds? I guess it's all a matter of taste. To quote Rossini, "Wagner has beautiful moments and terrible quarter-hours."

It's the same with His Lardship's books. Those who enjoy long-winded pompous sentences and the right-wing, elitist spin he puts on things will enjoy them, others will not.

How many literary awards of any significance has he won? How many copies of his books has he sold worldwide?

I am relatively well-informed, but I never heard of Conrad Black before he turned up in England and began his in-your-face self-publicity and arrogant know-all pushing of his far-right agenda and licking Thatcher's arse (for his own purposes of course).

Poor Lit, she seems to have gone on a collision course with her Lord and Master, who only quite recently declared his unshakeable faith in the American justice system, which Lit now finds "extremely flawed". Which is is, dearie?

Just because I made a few remarks about Morticia's expensively cultivated ugliness and death-warmed-up undead features, and perhaps waxed a tad negatively about her character and mendaciousness, leaf seems to have got really upset: 17 unanswered, unheard, but recorded calls from her number last night. That's a new record.

But at least it keeps her fingers away from [fill in the rest yourself or she'll accuse me of 'vulgarity' LOL].

She'd better hurry up and send a copy of her dossier to the Indian police, too, because I expect to leave for AP before the end of the week.

ROFLMAO

leaf March 31, 2008 at 3:48 a.m.

"leaf seems to have got really upset: 17 unanswered, unheard, but recorded calls from her number last night. That's a new record."

and that's news to me fickton.
your little tracking device is not quite up to speed.
why don't you post these phone #s right here on the blog? who, other than me, has been calling you fickton?
i dare you: post phone numbers!

i'd like to take this opportunity to thank whoever has been calling the creep in the middle of the night.
SO-SO-SO
SO-LI-DA-RI-TY!!!

Fintan March 31, 2008 at 5:46 a.m.

The pest: "why don't you post these phone #s right here on the blog? who, other than me, has been calling you fickton?
i dare you: post phone numbers!"

You are the criminal, not me. I do things the correct way. The wheels are in motion.

And it's not "my" tracking device, incidentally.

Still waiting for your "proof", bluffer.

ROFLMAO @ your impotent frustration. So wanting to do me harm, but so incapable of doing anything, and making a laughing stock of yourself on this blog. Like your daddy or your brother did - up (fill in the rest, you have all the answers] hee-hee.

Fintan March 31, 2008 at 6:56 a.m.

Just to show there's no hard feelings, leafie, post your address and I'll send you a nice postcard from India. Hee-hee

What were those allegations you made, by the way? They've slipped my mind.

LOL

Lit_200 March 31, 2008 at 9:38 a.m.

I must say I am curious about the means by which Conrad Black transmitted his recent article to the New York Sun. If, as posters here have suggested (relished? hoped for? - I see one poster believes Black's comments are so incendiary that he has written the Coleman facility and demanded that the outrage of Black speaking out be stopped forthwith ... possibly on the grounds that he is "running a business" from jail [even though there is no proof Conrad Black is accepting any recompense for his literary labours] but really, because this poster and others do not want Conrad Black polluting innocent and naive minds with right-wing "claptrap") Black is disallowed from having articles published by regulation. {I know, I know, that was a digression within a digression but almost anyone can work their way through it if they try.}

How quickly, and how easily, the left wing resorts to extraordinary measures in order to enforce their view of the world! Why it reminds one of .... well, I will allow the reader to think of an example from history where the voice of dissent was curtailed and where the right of free thought and expression was disallowed. There are surely plenty of them.

Casey March 31, 2008 at 9:47 a.m.

RE leaf's paedophile posts -

Maybe someone here can answer the following question for me....what kind of warped mind, without any proof whatsoever and having never even met the accusee in person, etc.,( a complete stranger )accuses this individual of being a paedophile? There is no evidence; nothing but the accuser's malignant imagination. Leaf apparently has zero idea how close he or she is to being caught for slander, libel, stalking, threats, harrassement.
Fintan has been relatively tolerant of this totally sick poster and he, Fintan, would be completely within his rights to call in the police, etc. Frankly, I don't know why Fintan hasn't already done this and maybe he has and has wisely remained silent.
I do hope that someone here at TOronto Life calls in law enforcement because a crime is being committed everytime leaf posts. It is no longer sufficient to just delete leaf's very sick accusations - period.

Casey March 31, 2008 at 10:02 a.m.

" How quickly, and how easily, the left wing resorts to extraordinary measures in order to enforce their view of the world! Why it reminds one of .... well, I will allow the reader to think of an example from history where the voice of dissent was curtailed and where the right of free thought and expression was disallowed. There are surely plenty of them. " - Lit_200 March 31, 2008 at 9:38 a.m.

I have pretty much washed my hands of you - to resort to accusing those who support the convictions and guilt of Conrad Black of being left wing is just one more example of your idiocy, stupidity, and ridiculous suppositions that anyone who is convinced of Black's guilt must be left of centre and anti conservative. What a load of claptrap and basic sh-t -get a bloody life already and start acting like you know what you are talking about. What a total loser you are.......yadda, yadda, yadda - go eat some smarties or something........just pathetic.....

Fintan March 31, 2008 at 10:26 a.m.

Casey: "Fintan has been relatively tolerant of this totally sick poster and he, Fintan, would be completely within his rights to call in the police, etc. Frankly, I don't know why Fintan hasn't already done this and maybe he has and has wisely remained silent."

Thanks for your support Casey. It is much appreciated and valued, but you will understand that the less I say about some things at this stage the better.

Anyway, by now it will be absolutely clear to everyone that the stalker leaf's allegations are either the product of a really sick, twisted personality, who is probably the victim of terribly traumatic sexual abuse as a child, or else express the frustration of those who have been the butts of my occasionally piercing satire. Guess who they might be. LOL

However, given the very nasty incidents that false accusations of paedophilia have led to - innocent persons who were mistaken for guilty ones suffering assault and their homes being firebombed by vigilante mobs in the UK, for example, after "outings" by sensationalist media - there is very powerful malice behind leaf's accusations, and always the danger that some or other unbalanced person will attempt violence against me, my wife or our home - or perhaps just someone they wrongly think is me. Maybe someone actually believes Goebbels' dictum (remember, he's the one of whom Morticia has a treasured portrait, LOL) that if you throw enough mud, some of it is sure to stick.

The fact that Toronto Life has taken no action other than to delete some of leaf's posts long after they appeared raises very serious questions about its honesty and Mr. Douglas Bell's journalistic integrity, and I hereby ask Bell if he would care to comment. I suggest he read his own posting policy first. It's here, just in case he can't find it: http://www.torontolife.com/privacy/

Or maybe acts that are clearly illegal on this side of the Atlantic are quite acceptable in Canada. Could it be that the attitude to Internet terrorism is as soft as the attitude to white-collar criminals like His Lardship seems to be?

Mr. Bell can, of course, always take the easy way out and block posts from my IP address and leave the floor to leaf. Then I'll just have to ask questions elsewhere.

That will leave quite a blog, won't it? And who will be the next paedophile, axe-murderer, white-slaver, drug dealer ...?

Lit: for the record, I have no objection to convicts being allowed to write in prison (in their free time) and have what they write published if they can get someone to publish it. But naturally that would have to apply to all felons, not just a privileged few.

Casey March 31, 2008 at 10:47 a.m.

You're welcome, Fintan. But I have essentially and finally given up on the lack of integrity, decency and law abiding attitude on this blog. I previously said that I would take a kind of wait - and - see stance regarding Toronto Life's actions to rid this site of leaf and to date, TL has done nothing. This started out to be a terrific place to air our beefs about the scammer, CB and it used to be fun to log on here. No more. This blog will eventually die a sad and pathetic death because of its complete dishonesty vis a vis its posting policies and its impotence, at least, in policing this site of sick posters such as leaf or at worst, its complete disregard for and abject refusal to stop posters like leaf. It's too bad that Douglas Bell could care less who or what logs onto his blog and has proved that the only thing that matters is how many hits per day this blog receives. As such, I refuse to be some loser like lit_200 and continue to waste my valuable time and energy posting here any longer. Good bye and good luck to Toronto Life - I have had it.

Fintan March 31, 2008 at 11 a.m.

I'm sorry to see you go Casey. I'm leaving for India late next week and will be offline while I'm there anyway. Let's see what happens in the weeks I am away.

Remember, if you ever come to Finland, it will be an honour for me and my wife to receive a visit from you. You have my e-mail (and my phone number - but it's no use to anyone, LOL).

Karma be with you.

Pen1 March 31, 2008 at 11:12 a.m.

Pro-Black consiracy theorists must know that every jurisdiction, including the OSC, is acting on orders from the faceless, overzealous forces of envy in the U.S. Yes folks, it's a world-wide plot orchestrated with the sole purpose of bringing down one rich, famous British Lord for absolutely no good reason except that he uses big words. Right. - kjkld

there is a face you can attribute to US corporate governance and it's Eliott Spitzer, these people are shake down artists, they couldn't give a sh1t about Conrad Black or what words he uses, they didn't like his attitude or the fact that he refused to pay them any money. It's easy to see why they decided to bury Black in a federal trial, had they not gone the criminal route the co-accused could persue Breeden and his lawyer friends in civil court for the $300mm they syphoned from Hollinger international and the 98% of shareholder equity that was illiminated on their watch. It's all about money and covering your own ass, smart ass!!

Fintan March 31, 2008 at 11:29 a.m.

Cory Privatera is a joke - but also a liar. Some time back, (s)he posted an address and has on a couple of occasions since then insisted it is a real one - although in reality it seems to be a bookstore, as any fool can plainly see.

Now, however, Cory makes clearly actionable assertions about some very powerful people - powerful enough to put even His Lardship's fat arse in a place where he will have to watch it for the next five years plus. LOL

Or maybe (s)he is not a liar and I am wrong about the address being false. In which case Cory is almost as dumb as Black Snr., because those people are not to be trifled with.

ROFLMAO

GravityLevity2 March 31, 2008 at 11:34 a.m.

I agree with Lit that cons should be as free as anyone else to write whatever. If any organ wants to publish such writing, so be it. I think (but am not sure) that there are laws in the US that criminals cannot benefit financially from accounts dealing with their crimes. If that is the case, Conrad Black should not receive compensation from American sources for any column (or book) that references his crime/ conviction/ court case.
However I don't see much worth in reading alleged non-fiction on any topic by someone like Conrad Black who is in other venues continuing to make statements that seem to me to be the outright lies of a fraudster and are, at best, delusional.

Bubba March 31, 2008 at 12:30 p.m.

ah sure is grateful t'thet thar Kinadian real English lo'd feller who joined us hyar a few weeks ago. ah was lookin' fo'ward t'mebbe havin' some interestin' compenny fo' a change, on account o' mah present bitch is as thick as hogsh1t in frosty weather, but it turned out he ain't mah type. ah like mah bitches a few years yo'nger an' less lardy. But ah reckon Jimmah "Razo'" Brown is real interested, cuss it all t' tarnation. He likes his bitches trimenjus an' fat. 'Nuff about thet part of life hyar in Colemen, as enny fool kin plainly see. Whut in tarnation ah wanted t'say is ah's grateful t'thet Kinadian feller fo' a fine idea. He sho'nuff'd talk th' ass off a mule an' all them trimenjus wo'ds is hard t'foller, but when he told me was was a-gonna write fo' noospapers about this hyar an' thet an' t'other, an' git paid fo' it, ah thunk: Whuffo' th' hell kin't ah do th' same? So, ah contacked th' Booger Holler Clarion an' th' Dawg Creek Redneck Review an' now ah's officially their hoosegow co'respondent. Fum now on, ev'ry shankin', ev'ry prison romance, ev'ry best-up be repo'ted by Bubba, yer co'respondent on th' spot. I'll be watchin' t'other Bubba's missus, thet geriatric wif th' hideny blonde wife an' thet coloured feller - whut's his name - t'see how they does in th' presidential campiagn, as enny fool kin plainly see. ah reckon ah knows as much about them thin's as thet Kinadian lo'd feller. But thet kinadian lo'd feller pow'ful is clevah, ah have t'admit - eff'n yo' on overlook th' fack thet he's hyar in th' fust place.

Butch_McLarty March 31, 2008 at 1:58 p.m.

Casey, feel free to move the discussion over to http://www.altlondon.org.

We're neither pro or con Lord Tubby and his pneumatically enhanced partner.

Just appreciate a lively discussion.

Fintan March 31, 2008 at 2:04 p.m.

Butch, can I come too, or am I too vulgar, as leaf says I am?

Lit_200 March 31, 2008 at 2:53 p.m.

Shuck Bubba, eye growt a beard jes redin tt thar reporta yourn ent to ent. Y'all gat more wuds than m'houn' dawg Blue gat fleas. N'eye aine none the wiser nother fer all thet thar plavern a y'orn. Whut us'n en GlueEye Miss. wanter kno is, shud we trade our leveraged buyouts of bundled securitized mortgages fer a passel o gold bul'ion or shud we jes be settin on "em. Now get on thet & axe tt Kanadian lo'd feller whut in hell & tarnation we sposta dew. He ain jes a nother swing'n dick, y'kno. Thenk u kind'ly Bubba.

Butch_McLarty March 31, 2008 at 3:49 p.m.

Fintan, the more the merrier -- even leaf if s/he greases up with KY-Sterile Lubricant.

Pen1 March 31, 2008 at 4:22 p.m.

Or maybe (s)he is not a liar and I am wrong about the address being false. In which case Cory is almost as dumb as Black Snr., because those people are not to be trifled with. - fintan

WTF are you talking about? should I just move on and accept that senility can expose one to paranoic brain rot?

There is no bookstore at 67 Broadview, that idea was invented by one of the other psycopaths stalking this board.

Look at those powerful people in corporate governance, seemingly they are crooks, liars and cheats themselves look at Spitzer for example. Or the heartless scoundrel Eric Sussman who deserted his wife 2 days after she gave birth to their forst child.
Than there's Breeden who raped Hollinger for $300mm while he saves the companies shareholders from Conrad Black who built the company and all of the shareholder value in the first place. They are crooks and liars and will be brought to justice, Spitzer is just the first one to get paid back for his crimes, Breeden will be brought to justice too one day.

Lit_200 March 31, 2008 at 4:53 p.m.

GravityLevity2

"Lit_200

if Conrad Black is so clever, how did he end up in jail? There are many answers to that but the most succinct is that the justice system in the United States is extremely flawed."

Way to compliment your own intelligence, Lit, since you had this figured out, and clever Connie, who had no basic human need to be met by doing business in the US, voluntarily chose to set up shop there--even though he had been in legal trouble there before (another corrupt plot against him, do you think?)

To test two proverbs, since it wasn't a case of once bitten twice shy, Connie's returning to the scene of the almost-trangression of the 1980s may have been a case of a dog returning to his vomit. He wasn't smart enough to stay away.

Fintan March 31, 2008 at 2:01 a.m.

GravityLevity2 - good one. There's such a thing as being too clever, but not smart. That's why in about six hours from now His Lardship will have been a jailbird for four full weeks - with at least 282 to go. Ouch!

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I smell a non sequitur.

The proposition is that CB is in jail because of an unjust justice system.

If I read you right, Grav/Lit, you are counter arguing that since A) CB had been in trouble with the USDJ before, and B) because he had no reason to set up shop in the United States [despite owning some 400 newspapers there and wishing to acquire funds from US investors through the stock exchange - but let your suggestion stand as it is] ... that since A and B [and forgetting references to me complimenting my own intelligence, dog vomit and returning to the scene of previous crimes that were never prosecuted), taking all that into consideration, my proposition is therefore... um... nugatory?

Lit_200 March 31, 2008 at 9:29 p.m.

A present. This is spectacular.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOqxSaW05...

Lit_200 March 31, 2008 at 9:46 p.m.

If you think Tschaikovski can't make an impression on you, check out the same site for the Bolshoi doing the Pas de Quatre Small Swans and the great Oksana Baiul skating to Swan Lake.

GravityLevity2 March 31, 2008 at 10:54 p.m.

Lit, if you are right, the rest of this paragraph follows: you knew the US was an unjust place. Conrad didn't--or somehow thought he could dodge the injustice, despite having been previously in the sights of the SEC, therefore being a convenient person to be set up. He didn't need to get involved in the US business world (he and his family were not facing destitution in the alternative), but he did anyway. He got caught in injustice.

This looks stupid to me. Stupid, hapless Conrad, in contradiction to your praise of Conrad's overall brilliance.

I don't think Black is that stupid. I think he is quite a clever criminal who got overconfident; who trusted a criminal confederate, Radler, whom he had managed to alienate on a personal level; and who still has people like you hoodwinked.

Casey April 1, 2008 at 7:16 a.m.

Fintan March 31, 2008 at 11 a.m.

" I'm sorry to see you go Casey. I'm leaving for India late next week and will be offline while I'm there anyway. Let's see what happens in the weeks I am away.

Remember, if you ever come to Finland, it will be an honour for me and my wife to receive a visit from you. You have my e-mail (and my phone number - but it's no use to anyone, LOL).

Karma be with you. "

Thank you, Fintan, most kind invitation and words. And though I claim that I have no use for a blog that permits the sick posts of a leaf, I have also noticed that this warped individual has not been around much lately so again, I try to give TL some benefit of the doubt that it may indeed be adhering to some policy regarding disturbed and vicious postings directed towards others.
In any case, I came across a fantastic statement by Rosie Dimanno of the Toronto Star shortly following Judge St. Eve's handing down of CB's sentence on December 10th. In all the commentary to date that I have managed to locate / read about that illustrious and welcomed day, it is my opinion that absolutely NO ONE could have sized up that event better and more succinctly and accurately than Ms. Dimanno. Belated congratulations to this fine reporter. Here, then, is the link of that terrific summary of the sentencing -

http://www.thestar.com/News/article/2843...

THE BEST take on Black so far, in my opinion and I think it needs reprinting / reposting every time a dumbell like Lit_200 spews his idiotic ramblings from some " tropical hideaway " whose too much sun and excessive heat seems to have fried his brain.

Lit_200 April 1, 2008 at 7:24 a.m.

GravityLevity2

That's like saying Einstein was an idiot because he never knew when it was time to get a haircut - and he kept doing that again and again.

Nevertheless, we seem to agree on some basic points about Conrad Black: such as the fact that he is gifted with an extraordinary intelligence. As for the rest, well - we are just haggling about adjectives.

GravityLevity2 April 1, 2008 at 9:03 a.m.

einstein's hair didn't get him put on trial and thrown in jail, so it was trivial
No, Lit: it's about verbs and nouns: as in: to commit fraud, to obstruct justice

Lit_200 April 1, 2008 at 10:06 a.m.

Ahh, Grav/Lev, but what if he didn't INTEND (verb) to defraud (verb) anyone or to obstruct (verb) justice (noun)? As one of the jurors subsequently said, "I just could not see any criminal intent."

What we are left with is, you don't like the guy, he has pulled some fast ones, even criminal ones when he was a boy in school, and so it's ok to put him in jail.

jade_lee April 1, 2008 at 11:18 a.m.

That jurist was speaking about some of the charges, not all of them! Black was not convicted of all of the charges......Blacks childhood criminal behaviour didn't land his ass in jail, his adult frauds and obstruction of justice did, the ones the jury DID find him guilty of!

Casey April 1, 2008 at 1:53 p.m.

" No, Lit: it's about verbs and nouns: as in: to commit fraud, to obstruct justice " - GravityLevity2 April 1, 2008 at 9:03 a.m.

Note to Gravity/Levity - WHY do you even waste your time with this jerk? Clearly he is as stupid ( so he uses big words and quotes Shakwespeare...yadda, yadda and has evolved into someone as boooring as hell ) and hapless as Conrad - no biggie discovery here about CB - most have always known that CB was NOT the brightest businessman in the room.......anyone dumb enough to go public in the States, scene of former CB misadventures, and actually believe that 1) he could outwit the SEC and USJD or 2) that they WOULDN't be lying in wait for this hapless idiot, deserves the derision he now receives ( and always received, frankly ) and the current predicament he now finds himself. Most Canadians, British and Americans ( if they even know who he is ) are laughing at him now and to his pudgy, dishonest face.

Fintan April 1, 2008 at 1:56 p.m.

I know this is hard to believe, but there really is a bigger nutter than Lit. Trust me!

Yes, indeed, someone who wouldn't let a mountain range of evidence, or the total absence of any evidence, whichever the case, make him waver in his belief.

Read all about him here: http://www.alfayed.com/News%20and%20Feat...

Barbara_in_BC April 1, 2008 at 2:25 p.m.

Al Fayed has sure got a case of this:

"Denial ain't just a river in Egypt." - Mark Twain

Columbia Encyclopedia : “denial”

“in psychology, an ego defense mechanism that operates unconsciously to resolve emotional conflict, and to allay anxiety by refusing to perceive the more unpleasant aspects of external reality. In the psychoanalytic theory of Sigmund Freud, denial is described as a primitive defense mechanism. Anna Freud studied the widespread occurrence of denial among small children and explained that the mature ego does not continue to make extensive use of denial, because it conflicts with the capacity to recognize and critically test reality. Most people employ denial at some time in their lives when coping with stressful situations, such as the death of a loved one. Elisabeth Kübler-Ross's influential theory describes denial as the first stage of a dying person's progress in coming to terms with terminal illness. In such instances, denial may be considered adaptive. It is considered maladaptive, however, when it becomes delusional. In recent years, the term is used more generally, to describe the suppression of reality rather than a particular defense mechanism in the Freudian sense.”